Dawn of the Third Age/IC Logs/Session 59

Session Start (Deliberative:#celestialdeliberative): Sun Jan 15 13:09:07 2012 -0500

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[13:09] *** dakkareth is now known as Nomoe_Hideaki

[13:10] <Lob> mouths and other less identifiable things were visible from moment to moment, like shapes in shifting sand.

[13:10] <Lob> "So like the wind it is." A deiphage chattered almost worshipfully. "A killing wind like our Lady."

[13:15] <Lob> As it said this, it too was devoured with an ecstatic sigh

[13:16] <Bushranger> "A killing wind the Lady will use to ensure your deaths!" Shrike shouts back, standing in a ready stance.

[13:17] <Lob> The thing extruded a long limb of self and grasped at Shrike, it's touch burning her very sub-motonic particles

[13:23] <Nomoe_Hideaki> There's a rustle of silk and Nomoe's luxurious robes are replaced by martial clothes of simpler design if no less precious materials. It would not do to damage or stain the others in battle. His stance is relaxed in the way of the Fist of the Daystar Stylists whose power lies in his internal strength rather than fancy maneuvers.

[13:26] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "I think I will register a complaint about the behaviour of the natives," he says dryly, withdrawing a knotted cord of woven orichalcum from within his robes.

[13:27] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "Don't you agree that this is most unseemly?"

[13:28] <Bright_Snow> "It is." Snow is holding her lance now but is otherwise unmoving. Awaiting Nomoe's action.

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[13:36] *** Bushranger is now known as Shrike

[13:37] <Shrike> As the limb extends torwards her, Shrike tenses, waiting until the last possible moment - then blurs, diving to the ground underneath the grasping tentacle, intending to give it no time to maneuver after her, a surge of Essence increasing her speed at the last second.

[13:37] <Shrike> "You're the ugliest thing I've ever seen! You're so ugly yo momma took one look at you and said "that's no protoplasm of mine!" she shouted, her Reaper Daiklave flashing upwards at the creepy hentai tentacle thing.

[13:39] <Anshu> Anshu's caste mark glows to life as he moves his arms in a swirling motion, creating a whirlpool pattern in the sudden blaze of his anima. A vortex of sunlit water essence spins out from him to pull at and hinder the attacking gods as the Zenith settles into the Ghost-Restraining Whirlpool Stance.

[13:43] <Lob> The mass twisted and found itself unable to move away, but could only flail mindlessly...which wasn't that large a change.

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[13:45] *** Virgil is now known as Bright_Snow

[13:46] <Nomoe_Hideaki> On Nomoe's brow the mark of the Eclipse burns. "These my companions as well as my own person are afforded diplomatic immunity as per paragraph ..." a long sequence of identifiers follows, "of the Treaty of In Solis." His voice resounds between the walls of the nearby buildings as he fixes the swarm or whatever it is with his eyes.

[13:46] <Lob> The beast pulsated and devoured deiphages that got too close to it.

[13:47] <Lob> The beast also resoundingly does not give a shit about the treaty

[13:49] <Nomoe_Hideaki> With a snap one of the three knots in the cord unravels and a winged cherub pops into existence next to Nomoe. "Deliberator Nomoe Hideaki to the Celestial Lion commander of sector 1286. Reporting a mob of infernally tainted lesser gods and one deity-devouring entity of significant power acting to break the peace of Yu-Shan. If necessary I and my fellow Exalts will be taking appropriate action to defend ourselves and the citizens of Yu-Shan."

[13:51] <Nomoe_Hideaki> He then brings his hands together in a gesture of supplication though his posture and expression is anything but humble. "Oh grand scholar of the Heavenly Laws, master of the 108 jade scrolls, most learned advocate of the 3rd court ..."

[13:51] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Apparently he is directing a prayer to his heavenly lawyer.

[13:53] <Nomoe_Hideaki> He keeps well clear of the mass of gods, next to Bright Snow, watching events unfold.

[13:57] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "... in advance hoping for your gracious assistance, your advice and representation ..."

[13:59] <Shrike> ...a blazing bolt of pure fire forged in the heart of the Unconquered Sun lashing out from the tip of her blade torwards the heart of the massive dark beast.

[14:10] <Lob> The golden sunlight dissipated on it's hide, the essence somehow eaten by the least gods as it struck it.

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[14:14] <Lob> In response, the beast slammed at both Anshu and Shrike at the same time, moving somewhat jitteringly from Anshu's stance.

[14:15] <Lob> it let out a buzzing noise of impotent rage from all over it's protoplasmic body, devouring the quintessence of the structures around it into nothingness

[14:15] <Shrike> "What's the matter? Can't hit the broad side of a yeddim stable?" Shrike taunts the beast, rolling to her feet near the others.

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[14:20] *** Virgil is now known as Bright_Snow

[14:24] * Bright_Snow rushes towards the monsterous amalgamation of traitorous forgotten gods, leaping onto a damaged wall and running over her companions. As she passes it her spear strikes out twice to the monster and once to the wall.

[14:31] <Lob> The amalgamation screamed a hideous piping melody of pain as Snow's essence burned through it like a hot knife through butter, leaving dripping quintessential scar-lined holes in it's hide as the reptilian Lunar leapt over it.

[14:32] <Lob> It wishes to run, but it cannot, not while Anshu has it trapped

[14:33] <Anshu> "Do any of us have the ability to put this thing down permanently?"

[14:34] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Though he does not interrupt his prayer Nomoe Hideaki nods and smiles thinly. [14:37] <Anshu> "Then shall we do that, or simply keep it pinned until the Celestial Lions can arrive?"

[14:40] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Nomoe tilts his head eloquently. -This thing devours gods, is born of infernal taint, and has dared to attack us. What's more, it seems entirely mindless. I have no use for it.-

[14:40] <Shrike> "And have it eat them too? Kill it and kill it now," Shrike snaps.

[14:41] <Anshu> "Very well. I shall continue to keep it immobilized. Make sure it is never again a threat to anything."

[14:42] <Lob> The monster thrashed impotently at the approaching Exalts, but it's movements were imprecise, almost jagged.

[14:42] <Lob> as if it could not sense them properly

[14:45] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Nodding Nomoe leaps into the sky where he performs a rapid pirouette, his hands raised to the sky where Sol Invictus is in the lead in the Games of Divinity. Sun radiance gathers around him as he grasps ten million rays of sunlight out of the air. Then he casts them down upon the east in a burning whirlwind of light to utterly burn away the creature's essence.

[14:50] <Lob> The creature vibrated as the essence scoured it's body, destroying it from the inside, converting it to more and more blazing sunlight

[14:52] <Anshu> Anshu lowers his arms, returning to a more natural standing position. The vortex continues to swirl around him for another few seconds before fading away.

[14:52] <Lob> Soon there is nothing left of it

[14:52] * Bright_Snow relaxes, her warform slipping off her as she perches on the end of the ruined wall watching the creatures death throes

[14:52] <Shrike> Shrike pumps her fist in the air with a grin.

[14:52] <Lob> literally nothing, like Nomoe has scoured it from existence.

[14:52] <Shrike> "That's it! Eat sun, evildoer!"

[14:53] <Nomoe_Hideaki> In the blink of an eye Nomoe stands on solid ground once more, continuing his prayer. Not that any action of their wasn't completely justified, but you can never go wrong having a scholar of law present in these things.

[14:55] <Shrike> "...and I even managed to avoid damaging this new dress. I'd say this was all in a day's good work, wouldn't you?"

[14:55] *** Shrike is now known as Shoggoth

[14:55] *** Shoggoth is now known as Shrike

[14:55] <Lob> An IM appeared next to Snow and spoke in Bear's voice

[14:56] <Lob> "The next match has begun." It said dryly

[14:56] <Lob> "Please report to the arena now."

[14:58] <Bright_Snow> "Late already. I thought we were done for the day." She leaps off the wall, dusting her dress off with one hand. "I will see you all another time then."

[14:58] <Bright_Snow> "It looks as if my fight is starting sooner than I had anticipated." She sounds nervous.

[14:58] * Nomoe_Hideaki nods seriously, even as his own clothes return to their previous state the danger to them having passed. "I suppose it was fortunate that someone was idiotic enough to involve Exalted in this. The Celestial Lions might have had more trouble."

[14:58] * Shrike inclines her head torwards Snow in agreement.

[14:58] <Shrike> "Another time, another place. And I am sure that you will do well."

[14:58] <Bright_Snow> And turns and exits the building.

[15:00] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Nomoe suddenly looks uncomfortable. "I have to make sure things are properly handled here. I will come to watch as soon as I can." He smiles slightly. "Try not to defeat your opponent too quickly?"

[15:01] <Bright_Snow> She pauses at the threshold as Nomoe speaks, turns her head back towards him and gives a shy little nod before leaving the building

[15:01] <Anshu> "I should probably return as well," Anshu says.

[15:02] <Lob> As they enter the arena, they find a hushed crowd, and a single man with arms folded turned away from the approaching Snow

[15:02] <Lob> "It's been awhile, Snow." He said in a hushed but sharp voice audible to her.

[15:04] <Lob> He turned to look at her, dressed in a white martial arts gi, his black hair and coal black eyes looking at her coldly.

[15:04] <Lob> Li Jin Gang, unforgettable to Snow.

[15:07] <Shrike> Shrike follows Anshu to the arena, where she pauses, giving Anshu a quick wish "for luck", before heading to her seat in the stands.

[15:08] * Bright_Snow stands, spear already drawn. Silent as her namesake.

[15:08] <Lob> Gang cocked his head and smiled very thinly. "Nothing to say to your old sifu?" He said, spreading his arms to his sides

[15:10] <Bright_Snow> "Beyond what words we exchanged at our last meeting?" She looks at him coldly, "Had I something to say Li, it would have been said long before now."

[15:10] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Having handled all the most pressing matters and made sure that his advocate knows to take care of the rest Nomoe makes his way toward the arena in most unseemly haste. He will not miss Bright Snow's match!

[15:10] <Bright_Snow> Her tone is clear her voice cold, like midwinter.

[15:10] <Lob> "You were always my greatest student, you should know that. The...discipline I had to give you at the Deliberative. Well, that was simply necessary. One that was instructive of your proper place, yes?"

[15:10] <Lob> he says this as he looks at his nails casually.

[15:10] <Anshu> Anshu settles in to rest and observe the fight.

[15:11] * Shrike ponders betting on the fight

[15:11] <Lob> He moved closer to her. "This is a lesson that, I have learned from a most unlikely source, needs to be taught to all of you. Everywhere."

[15:11] <Lob> "And it is for that reason that I am..."

[15:12] <Bright_Snow> "Oh come now, we both know that fight was never settled. And you are still a dog Li, pinning for its spoilt bitch of a master. A rabid one..."

[15:12] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Thankfully he arrives just in time to see his mate being confronted by her old teacher. Beyond the sense of his presence he keeps the bond closed as to not distract her.

[15:12] <Lob> He turned to look at the Sun in the sky, at Ligier, at everyone around him, then he smiled at Solitary Talon.

[15:12] <Lob> "I am quitting this match."

[15:12] <Lob> The stands went wild. This was unprecedented.

[15:13] <Shrike> "...that was unexpected..."

[15:13] <Lob> "Xcalimon. I believe it is time to deliver the package."

[15:13] <Lob> He said silently, and with that, a great cry came from across the city.

[15:13] * Bright_Snow spear remains between her and Li, held in guard.

[15:14] <Anshu> Anshu's eyes narrow to slits.

[15:14] <Lob> "The time of the traitor gods is over, and their whelps. All of you must be punished..." He looked at Solitary Talon again. "All of you."

[15:15] <Lob> Solitary Talon merely began weeping, as if she had expected this yet had dared not accept it.

[15:16] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Nomoe frowns as Li forfeits. What is he planning ... Nomoe Hideaki actually flinches as if struck as his charm deciphers his meaning. */He intends to destroy Yu-Shan itself .../*

[15:16] <Lob> The stands were suddenly in a frenzy, as buildings could be heard being torn down, and shrieking praise to the Silent Wind carried on the breeze.

[15:16] <Lob> "But you and I, my pupil. You and I will still have our match."

[15:17] <Lob> He held high a black glyph, like a scale formed of shadow and darkness. "THE BROKEN WINGED CRANE SHALL YET FLY!" He shouted, then smashed it to the ground where it exploded into a hole of nothing that engulfed both Li and Snow.

[15:17] * Bright_Snow is quite evident on Snow's face and then it passes. "You are pathetic, before angry as you were I at least held some tether of respect for you. Now you are a puppet Li, so much so I can see the hand sticking out from your backside."

[15:18] <Lob> Then they were gone.

[15:18] <Bright_Snow> "Before I would have thought to spare you, as a friend, but it seems my friend passed long ago." She begins to laugh.

[15:18] <Nomoe_Hideaki> After a moment, and infinity to someone like him, Nomoe finally manages to get a hold of himself. */Nevermind that, I will take care of that. Just beat the life out of hi .../ shock at seeing her disappear /Bright Snow?/*

[15:18] <Bright_Snow> The laughter lingers even after they vanish... mocking and relieved.

[15:19] <Lob> Snow found herself in...nothing, stepping upon...nothing

[15:19] <Lob> the only light was that thrown by her essence, visible in a place of such barrenness. Across from her, Li Jin Gang looked at her with paternal affection.

[15:20] <Lob> Like stars in the sky, Snow could see the other prisoners, trapped in eternal despair.

[15:20] <Lob> In Yu-Shan, the deiphages came closer. More then could have ever been counted. Yu-Shan would now pay for their laziness, their corruption, their turning away from their righteous masters!

[15:20] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Clearly conventional propriety is played out, Nomoe considers. So he doesn't think twice about ascending into the sky over the arena to get a better view. What is happening, where is that 'package' that he believes will have such unprecedented power?

[15:21] <Shrike> "Nediena nodevējs!"Shrike snaps in Forest-Tongue, jumping to her feet, then freezing as the combatants vanish.

[15:21] <Shrike> Then produces her daiklave in a flourish. "Who is with me?!"

[15:21] <Nomoe_Hideaki> *that Li believes

[15:22] <Lob> "You know, Snow. I truly do feel proud of you." He pointed to his head. "The Ebon Dragon made sure of that."

[15:22] <Lob> He sighed. "You and I are so much alike. I wanted true freedom from the bond, so I eventually went to the one entity that refuses to be imprisoned, one that can escape all ties, obligations, all restraint, except for one."

[15:24] <Lob> So I went to him, and he said he would teach me, but bade me look into the dreams of Sacheverall at the same time. Us Lunars, we can look into dreams more then our Solar Mates can."

[15:25] * Bright_Snow is icily silent. "You exchanged one master for another, how sad." Her voice is filled with venom, "You exchanged one petty depraved tyrant for another. Such a comparison Li is far from apt."

[15:25] <Bright_Snow> "Especially considering all you did was exchange one leash for a far far more potent one.

[15:25] <Bright_Snow> "

[15:25] <Lob> "No." He said sadly.

[15:25] <Anshu> Anshu jumps to his feet and sprints out to the arena, then up into the air, also trying to acquire a better vantage point.

[15:25] <Lob> "I had to become an Akuma of the Ebon Dragon, because that is what I saw happen in the mind of Sacheverall"

[15:25] <Lob> "I did exchange a leash, but not the one you thought I did."

[15:27] <Lob> "The Ebon Dragon probably knew that this would happen. But that doesn't matter."

[15:28] <Bright_Snow> "Does it matter? Now you have the Ebon's Dragon within your skin, nothing of you is left, which is why this will not hurt a bit." She strikes, quickly and without warning. "I'm growing tired of hearing you babble."

[15:28] <Lob> Li stepped back and shifted into the form of a giant scorpion-man, with spots of shadow swimming in and under his skin.

[15:28] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "A plague of these unsightly creatures," Nomoe says to Anshu as he joins him in the skies over the arena, his tone casual. "That can't be all of it, though. He truly believes that this betrayal would be enough to bring down Yu-Shan itself ..."

[15:29] <Lob> "So here is what will happen." He somehow said clearly through no longer human mouthparts

[15:29] <Lob> "I hold half of the infamous Broken-Winged Crane within my soul. If you win, then it will dissipate."

[15:30] <Lob> "If you lose, you will die, and the entirety of the Broken-Winged Crane...the true Broken-Winged Crane, will be loosed upon the world."

[15:31] <Lob> "Of course, my partner, Xcalimon, is already leaving with the other half. I tell you that now that there is no chance of you affecting that outcome."

[15:32] <Shrike> Shrike, meanwhile, follows Nomoe and Anshu on the ground, frustrated that she cannot fly.

[15:35] <Bright_Snow> A broken message escapes through the Bond to Nomoe.... */ Kill Xcal...on, will .... you if I ca... and... beca..e I migh.. n.t m..e i. back. l.v...ou / warmth fills the bond before it is snapped off/ *

[15:36] <Lob> Celestial Lions in Yu-Shan were rushing to quell riots, Ligier himself rose from his seat and unsheathed his Sword of the Yozis

[15:37] <Lob> "This interruption is unacceptable. Simply unacceptable." He said sternly, then left the stands calmly and began cutting through deiphages effortlessly.

[15:38] <Lob> "If Sol will not show himself to enforce proper discipline upon his serfs, then it is left to me, their true master, to teach them proper propiety he said to himself.

[15:39] <Lob> Meanwhile, Li Jin Gang moved into the stance of the forbidden murderous art

[15:39] <Lob> Cobra Form.

[15:42] <Lob> "My greatest pupil, Bright Snow. Let your artistry shine, for this will be the final time I will see it, either way." He said with genuine emotion.

[15:43] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "Bright Snow?" Nomoe Hideaki says quietly, frozen with shock at losing the bond connection. It has become something so natural, so right that it feels like a part of him being ripped away. It shouldn't be possible, nothing can sever the bond ... and she can't be dead, she can't.

[15:43] <Anshu> Anshu stands above the Arena and raises his hands to the Sun. In Old Realm, he begins to speak: "I am Anshu, Surely-Refulgent. For my virtues, I was Chosen by the Unconquered Sun and Exalted into the Zenith Caste to serve as His Priest, His Herald, and His Champion."

[15:45] <Anshu> "By the Power and Authority He has vested in me, I hereby amend the Roll of Reviled Darkness. Forevermore, all deiphages now within Yu-Shan, the Heavenly City, shall burn in the fury of the Holy Light of the Sun!"

[15:46] <Lob> The Sun pulsed as Anshu changed the underpinnings of Creation and reality.

[15:46] <Anshu> Anshu's anima banner towers over the city, and his voice carries far and wide for all to hear.

[15:48] <Lob> Yet an entire continent-sized city was trapped in the throes of terror

[15:50] <Shrike> Shrike takes a position at the Arena gates, poised with her Daiklave held tightly outward in one hand, legs spread to brace herself and fully block any Deiphages who wish to enter, her expression determined and her own caste mark shining brightly.

[15:51] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Frozen Sunlight Mask nonewithstanding he actually trembles as contrary absolutes clash in his soul as he looks down to the spot where Bright Snow disappeared. He has to do something, follow her to wherever she was taken, guard her back against the betrayer she isn't sure she can beat. But ...

[15:54] <Shrike> A slight gust of wind surrounds the redheaded Solar as her orichilum lamellar appears from Elsewhere, and she quickly slips into it, the familar caress of her armor like a second skin upon the Night Caste's body.

[15:54] <Lob> The claws that had replaced Gang's hand lengthened into identical curved swords

[15:54] <Nomoe_Hideaki> But ... she had said to go after the God of Blackmail, for whatever reason. What he wants to do is clear, but equally clear is his duty - to support his mate, to be where she isn't, to do what is necessary.

[15:56] <Lob> Ligier sauntered past Shrike, his sword burning with palpable power

[15:56] <Lob> "Good luck, for now, we are on the same side."

[15:57] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Bright Snow must know more than he does about what is going. Clearly this is something that needs to be done, something she cannot do right now. His duty. Duty always wins out in Nomoe's heart, but that doesn't mean it's not painful.

[15:58] <Shrike> Shrike smirks, giving a jaunty salute with her blade. "The enemy of my enemy, etctera. And good hunting."

[15:59] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "Lord Anshu," he calls out, his voice hoarse. "I have need of your resources."

[16:00] <Lob> An emaciated horde rushed towards Shrike, eager for the delectable and trapped deities hidden within that arena

[16:01] <Lob> Bear was on his hind legs smashing through divinities with paws so powerful that essence was unneccessary to tear heads from shoulders

[16:01] <Anshu> "What is it that you need, Lord Nomoe?"

[16:03] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "I must locate the god Xcalimon. By the traitor's words he bears a weapon against Yu-Shan. Bright Snow ... she managed to get a message to me from where she was taken. Only a few words were understandable, but this was clear: It is vital to slay that god."

[16:05] <Nomoe_Hideaki> His Charms do a good job of concealing the turmoil in his soul, but they are probably more fragile than at any other time.

[16:09] <Shrike> Shrike grits her teeth as the horde charges, taking a double-handed grip on her daiklave, and waiting as they approach, waiting for just the right moment...

[16:09] <Shrike> "I am Shrike of Swiftly Striking Talons. Night Caste of the Solar Exalted, Champion and Chosen of the Unconquered Sun," she cries out, raising her weapon above her head...

[16:09] <Shrike> "YOU! SHALL! NOT! PASS!"

[16:10] <Shrike> ...and she brings her blade around, a massive blast of Solar energy rippling from it!

[16:12] <Nomoe_Hideaki> Nomoe produces the sorcery-capturing cord again and undoes the second knot.

[16:12] <Anshu> "I am sorry. If my wife was here, she would have a spell to aid us, and I did not think to bring a retinue."

[16:12] <Anshu> Anshu thinks furiously.

[16:13] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "Nomoe Hideaki to Lady Si of the Forbidding Manse of Ivy," he speaks to the winged cherub. "If you are in any position to do so, I need your help. I must know the location of the god Xcalimon, who is a traitor to creation in possession of a weapon said to be capable to destroying Yu-Shan itself. If you can ask Nara-O or another god, if you know a spell to locate him, or can read the Loom to determine his position ..."

[16:14] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "I will gladly bear any costs or favors incurred. Please, if you can, help me."

[16:14] <Lob> Shrike sent the front of the horde reeling, blasting them backwards or into screaming dust, they cringed away from the sunlight that was suddenly so uncomfortable to them.

[16:15] <Nomoe_Hideaki> "Do you know of any other Exalts or gods, who would be able to help us?"

[16:15] <Shrike> Shrike's anima flares, an aura of pure golden light surrounding her figure as her Caste Mark shines.

[16:18] <Anshu> Anshu raises a hand and closes his eyes in concentration.

[16:30] <Anshu> Stigmata open on Anshu's body, and blood briefly flows from the wounds to stain his white robes. But Anshu opens his eyes, seemingly unconcerned. "The Jade Pleasure Dome. That's where we need to be."

[16:34] * Nomoe_Hideaki just nods once, appreciating Anshu's sacrifice. "We will take the gold routes. The nearest pier is ..." he turns slightly, his gaze sweeping over the close surroundings in the direction of the Dome, "there."

[16:36] <Shrike> "Bet you I beat you there even with these guys in the way!" Shrike shouts with a grin, not looking up at Anshu from her battle and, thus, not noticing the bloodstains...

[16:37] *** Lob has quit IRC: Disintegrated: ~ Trillian Astra - (Link: http://www.trillian.im)www.trillian.im ~

[16:37] <Anshu> Anshu nods. "You may have to do the majority of any fighting along the way, or to get us inside. My wounds are not serious, but my reserves are nearly spent."

[16:38] <Anshu> "Adding such a large group to the Roll of Reviled Darkness was very taxing."

[16:40] * Nomoe_Hideaki waves that away. "It will not be a problem."

[16:41] <Nomoe_Hideaki> There is an adamant determination in his eyes that even the crazed deiphages might think twice about facing.

[16:41] *** Bright_Snow has left #celestialdeliberative

[16:41] *** Nomoe_Hideaki is now known as dakkareth

[16:42] *** Shrike is now known as Bushranger

Session Close (#celestialdeliberative): Sun Jan 15 17:02:57 2012 -0500