Session 144.5

Chancel_Amyra
Chapter 16

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[03:32:04] <Angelo> HI!
[03:32:27] <Verithe> Hi!
[03:33:13] <Angelo> everything fine?
[03:33:30] <Random_Nerd> Law. Eat brain. Brain eaten. Law.
[03:33:55] <Angelo> ohhh poor RN... I send you a solidarity hug
[03:34:07] <Angelo> ... with pigeon
[03:34:22] <Random_Nerd> I'm fine. It's just a lot of work, and a lot of... not stress, precisely... tension?
[03:34:48] <Angelo> uhm... ugly
[03:35:06] <Verithe> Ick
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[03:35:24] <BethE> Evening, guys! *HUGS*
[03:35:26] <Random_Nerd> Still, I'm keeping up with it okay. And I know it's not just that I can't handle it, because everyone feels this way.
[03:35:32] <Random_Nerd> It's just a bit of an academic pressure-cooker.
[03:35:45] <Angelo> Hi Beth Huggggg!!!!!!
[03:36:04] <Verithe> Hi!
[03:41:35] <Random_Nerd> So, while we wait for Knock...
[03:41:48] <Random_Nerd> Verithe, you wanted to join the game, as a Noble of Locus Vulcan right?
[03:42:05] <Verithe> Yes!
[03:42:18] * Angelo listen carefully ... :-P
[03:42:40] <Random_Nerd> So... uh... tell us about your character.
[03:42:57] <Angelo> (I corrupted thoughtfully him!!!) (him= Verithe!)
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[03:43:32] <Knockwood> Hi guys
[03:43:34] <Angelo> Hi knock!
[03:43:40] <Knockwood> sorry I'm late
[03:43:55] <Random_Nerd> S'fine.
[03:44:38] <BethE> Hi Knock!
[03:44:40] <Angelo> yes its ok
[03:45:44] <Random_Nerd> Okay. So, Knock, Verithe wants to join the game, as part of Ftisk's family. I told him that one of the traditions of the game is that new players must be approved by the existing ones.
[03:45:58] <Verithe> Well, the concept I have is a Stymphalian bird from the 12 labors of Hercules myth (though the myth would actually just be loosely based on the true story) who is Vulcan's Power of Assembly.
[03:46:00] <Random_Nerd> He was going to tell us his character ideas, and then we'd see if anyone objects. Sounds good?
[03:46:33] <Knockwood> Sure... hell, I was encouraging him to join. :)
[03:47:04] <Random_Nerd> I know. Just... going through the motions.
[03:47:09] <Random_Nerd> But it seems that there are no objections.
[03:47:20] <Random_Nerd> Okay. What's "Assembly," as an estate?
[03:47:27] <Angelo> right is all you fault Knock! :-P
[03:51:24] <Random_Nerd> Am I disconnected from IRC, or is Verithe?
[03:51:27] <Verithe> "Assembly" is putting pieces together to form an ordered whole. Examples would typically include assembling a bicycle or a chair from their respective pieces, but could also mean assembling a mob from a bunch of people.
[03:51:43] <Verithe> I think I'm just slow.
[03:52:41] <Verithe> It would also cover assembly lines, since they are groups of people or machines (or both) devoted to assembling.
[03:53:00] <Random_Nerd> So, let's see. Would a multicellular creature, made up of a bunch of cells, count?
[03:53:22] <Knockwood> (or, for that matter, a machine?)
[03:54:09] <Verithe> I don't really think so, since they grew together rather than being "put" together.
[03:54:31] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. So the things have to have existed separately, first.
[03:54:47] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. What about a piece of music, made up of various notes?
[03:55:20] <Angelo> or a cyborg made from a human and a cyber arm?
[03:57:39] <Verithe> Possibly, but Assembly would also just cover the act that originally put them together. The final product, I think, isn't necessarily a part of the Estate.
[03:58:23] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. Okay.
[03:58:52] <Random_Nerd> For one of the mandatory questions, how would you use a miracle of Assembly of level 5 or less to stop a guided missile from hitting an airplane?
[04:02:06] <Verithe> Hrmm...a lesser creation to assemble the local winds into one strong gust and knock the missile off-course, perhaps?
[04:02:28] <Random_Nerd> Hmm.
[04:02:32] <Knockwood> (or, LD Assembly to make the thing fall apart. :) )
[04:02:59] <Angelo> (but is higher that level 5)
[04:03:08] <Knockwood> (No, that is 5)
[04:03:21] <Random_Nerd> What would a Lesser Preservation do?
[04:03:23] <Angelo> (sorry my bad)
[04:03:44] <Verithe> Likely
[04:06:26] <Verithe> Er...lengthen the assembly time of an object. Preserve the patience/energy of an assembly line so it can produce for a longer duration.
[04:06:45] <Knockwood> I wonder if it would stop a _dis_assembly.
[04:06:58] <Random_Nerd> Hmm...
[04:07:33] <Random_Nerd> To what degree would a pack of social carnivores count?
[04:07:47] <Random_Nerd> I could see it going either way. On the one hand, they're more an assembled thing than a thing in the process of assembly.
[04:08:00] <Random_Nerd> But on the other, they're engaging in behaviors that keep them as a functioning unit.
[04:12:04] <Verithe> I think, the forming of a pack in a manner that doesn't include new births (merging of packs, adding strays, etc) would be Assembly, but the pack itself is not devoted to Assembly so much as hunting.
[04:12:35] <Random_Nerd> Hmm.
[04:12:51] <Random_Nerd> Okay, two final questions. First, what's something that looks like an instance of Assembly, but isn't?
[04:19:06] <Verithe> Organizing is not Assembly. It is placing pieces into a semblance of functioning order, but it lacks making them into a whole. Also, the accumulation of clutter is not Assembly. I can't really think of a good reason just yet other than that it's just not.
[04:19:33] <Random_Nerd> That works. And finally, what's something that doesn't look like an instance of Assembly, but actually is?
[04:19:38] <Knockwood> That's easy: clutter is a collection of things as opposed to one thing
[04:20:05] <Angelo> (shhhh Knock these are question for Verithe)
[04:21:00] <Random_Nerd> If he agrees, that's fine.
[04:23:28] <Verithe> I don't think that's the exact reason.
[04:23:43] <Random_Nerd> Oh? What is, then?
[04:25:17] <Verithe> I think the assembling of mobs and groups with a purpose was what I was considering as something that doesn't look like Assembly, but is.
[04:26:40] <Random_Nerd> Then what's a counterexample?
[04:26:45] <Verithe> I think clutter isn't assembly because there is a lack of intent and order. Even assembled groups of people have an intent and some semblance of order.
[04:27:31] <Verithe> Or, rather, there is a reason to assemble.
[04:27:45] <Verithe> Clutter just happens.
[04:27:56] <Random_Nerd> So there has to be a purpose behind a instance of assembly?
[04:28:01] <BethE> ("An angry mob is an ugly thing...and I think it's about time we had one!")
[04:28:02] <Knockwood> Ah, so you're specifically _deliberate_ assembly
[04:28:25] <Knockwood> (wouldn't that put 'flash mobs' in a gray area?)
[04:28:27] <Verithe> A creative energy of sorts.
[04:28:50] <Random_Nerd> But there doesn't have to be sentience behind it, yes?
[04:30:05] <BethE> (Hmm, would this make him the Noble in charge of Anonymous?)
[04:30:56] <Verithe> Correct. On the axis of order and entropy (little E), Assembly is order and clutter, for example, would be entropy.
[04:31:17] <Knockwood> (Beth: definite gray area there)
[04:32:19] <Verithe> Assembly requires energy to work.
[04:32:38] <Random_Nerd> Okay. I think I have a handle on it.
[04:33:12] <Random_Nerd> It takes things which previously existed, and puts them together. This can be as a result of intentional acts by sentient beings, or as a result of physical processes that bring things together into a larger thing.
[04:33:36] <Random_Nerd> Or, somewhere in between, such as with animals.
[04:33:46] <Verithe> Right.
[04:34:00] <Random_Nerd> I think I have a workable understanding, then.
[04:34:09] <Random_Nerd> Oh!
[04:34:16] <Random_Nerd> Do the things brought together have to be physical?
[04:34:45] <Random_Nerd> Or can you bring a bunch of ideas together?
[04:38:40] <Verithe> I think...it has to be physical, though I may hate myself later for saying so. Assembly might bring together people with specific ideas in hopes that the assembled group will create a brainstorm, but the the creation of an idea from several ideas is not big-A Assembly.
[04:39:25] <Random_Nerd> Okay. But... for instance, using prisms and angled mirrors to assemble a beam of light from various other beams of light would count, correct?
[04:41:25] <Verithe> Yes.
[04:41:41] <Knockwood> That right there could give him a decent weapon
[04:42:09] <Verithe> Laser beams! :)
[04:42:13] <Random_Nerd> Okay. I think I have a viable understanding.
[04:42:15] <Knockwood> bull's-eye
[04:42:29] <Knockwood> you'd need enough ambient light, tho
[04:42:34] <Angelo> but he can have lot of (flying) cybermonkey to unleash against someone!
[04:42:36] <Random_Nerd> Well, not a laser, precisely... but focused light, as of a really big magnifying glass.
[04:42:45] <Random_Nerd> But that would be small consolation to the guy on the other end.
[04:42:59] <Verithe> Hehe
[04:43:18] <Knockwood> Question: to clarify... what, if anything, could Assembly miracles do to something already built?
[04:43:33] <Random_Nerd> Combine it with something else?
[04:43:52] <Angelo> unbuilt it with a destruction?
[04:45:24] <Verithe> Pretty much combine it with something else. I think destructions would be stopping the process or even reversing it, but wouldn't do anything to an already-made object.
[04:45:47] <Angelo> k
[04:46:31] <Knockwood> OK. Now, what would happen if there were missing pieces?
[04:46:32] <Random_Nerd> Okay. I think we have a viable estate.
[04:46:43] <Angelo> @RN: Dollphaniel gift: "Creation of Things That Might
[04:46:43] <Angelo> Keep Ftisk Distracted Until Shadows Sobers Up" mean that it will reactivate each time Shadows will get drunk?
[04:47:38] <Random_Nerd> Yes. But if he's sober, it won't function until he gets drunk again.
[04:47:44] <Verithe> I also had questions about the Stymphalian bird concept. Perhaps a change of assembly in the case of missing pieces?
[04:48:15] <Random_Nerd> They were the ones with brass beaks, right?
[04:49:10] <Angelo> btw seem that Vulcan like not human nobles, Bewyrn is a magma flow, mine is a snail and Verithe one is a Bird...
[04:49:48] <Random_Nerd> Hmm... but if we're going with mythological avians... what about the Simurgh?
[04:50:49] <Random_Nerd> It's a mythological king of birds, whose name means "thirty birds."
[04:51:16] <Verithe> Metallic feathers, according to what I've read, but myths change everywhere. I had considered the flock to have originated outside of Earth (or at least in an Earthly Chancel).
[04:51:51] <Verithe> Actually, I chose the Stymphalian bird because of its association with Hephaestus/Vulcan.
[04:51:56] <Random_Nerd> Let me find a reference, though...
[04:52:13] <Knockwood> let's see, a flock is an Assembly, ne?
[04:52:25] <Knockwood> especially a migratory one?
[04:52:52] <Verithe> Well, I wouldn't be the whole flock, just one of the birds that Vulcan took for himself, since they were strange and interesting....or something.
[04:53:11] <Random_Nerd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attar_Neyshapuri#Manteq_a.E1.B9.AD-.E1.B9.ACayr
[04:53:20] <Knockwood> I mean as far as your Estate.
[04:53:51] <Random_Nerd> It's the idea of a flock of birds who go out seeking this "thirty birds" king, and when they finally, reduced in their numbers to thirty, get to their destination, they discover that this king is themselves.
[04:53:55] <Random_Nerd> Seemed appropriate to the Domain.
[04:54:07] <Random_Nerd> Just wanted to throw that out there.
[04:55:20] <Random_Nerd> But, okay, Stymphalian bird. Okay, what's he like?
[04:57:21] <Knockwood> (could always be the mechanical owl from Clash of the Titans. :) )
[04:57:46] <Verithe> Well, I was considering that his flock might be from a different world on the Ash, some strange Earthly Chancel or perhaps even from beyond creation. Whatever it is, he doesn't remember much about it. Also, I have a sketch...
[04:58:09] <Random_Nerd> Oh?
[04:58:10] <Angelo> url please!
[04:58:48] <Verithe> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/MarcandSiya/StymphalianBirdsmall.jpg?t=1255057098
[04:59:06] <Verithe> He has shapeshifting to one human form...
[04:59:16] <Random_Nerd> Would you prefer to leave the issue of his origin as an open question?
[04:59:50] <Verithe> Yes,
[05:00:20] <Angelo> you do the flower too: http://siya.deviantart.com/art/Chytosideron-s-Flower-139280987
[05:00:40] <Verithe> I think he also likes to collect things. Being a bird, usually shiny things.
[05:00:56] <Angelo> btw Chytosideron is your Noble name?
[05:00:58] <Verithe> Yes, I did the flower too.
[05:01:03] <Verithe> Yes.
[05:01:11] <Angelo> :-)
[05:01:15] <Verithe> It means "cast iron"
[05:01:28] <Knockwood> remind me not to leave my eye lying around...
[05:01:31] <BethE> Beautiful art, by the way.
[05:01:43] <Verithe> Thanks. :)
[05:02:00] <Angelo> I second Beth
[05:02:09] <Random_Nerd> Indeed.
[05:02:12] <Knockwood> same here
[05:02:25] <Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see. How long has he been a Noble?
[05:04:56] <Verithe> I was considering it being ever since Vulcan grabbed him. Whether that would be the roughly 3000+ years ago that the myth would have been written about it or whether the story was retroactively placed in Greek mythology was one of the things I wanted to ask about.
[05:05:08] <Knockwood> (BTW, we tend toward short sentences or fragments.
[05:05:17] <Knockwood> keeps the pace up.
[05:05:22] <Angelo> yep
[05:05:24] <Verithe> Ah. :D
[05:05:36] <Random_Nerd> Yeah, it helps to keep the conversational momentum going.
[05:05:37] <Knockwood> Also kills speculation about whether your connection bought it. :)
[05:05:41] <Random_Nerd> Heh.
[05:05:48] <Verithe> Hehe
[05:06:03] <Verithe> But, yes. How old is too old?
[05:06:12] <Random_Nerd> Either of those could work. He could be a really old Noble, or Vulcan could have done some tricky Imperial tricks to put the myth in.
[05:06:17] <Angelo> your Noble is immortal?
[05:06:51] <Random_Nerd> Or it could be a bit of both. For instance, you could say that he's not the first Power of Assemblage, but that whenever one dies, Vulcan grabs another Stymphalian bird from the flock he keeps for that purpose./
[05:06:57] <Verithe> Eternal.
[05:07:21] <Random_Nerd> Or you could even say that the myth was a lot older, but one day Vulcan was flipping through Bulfinch's Guide to Mythology and decided that it would be a good idea.
[05:07:41] <Angelo> so he _can_ be the first an only power of assembly
[05:07:55] <Random_Nerd> Yes, if you want.
[05:08:06] <Verithe> As long as it fits.
[05:08:41] <Random_Nerd> Well, he'd be an outlier. I don't think any of the Nobles in the current game are more than a thousand years old, tops.
[05:09:12] <Knockwood> The trick would be playing someone 3 milennia old, especially with this group of n00bilis...
[05:09:36] <Knockwood> oh ... that would mean he's one or two ages old, ne?
[05:09:43] <Verithe> He's a bird. He's flighty.
[05:09:51] <Random_Nerd> He's a single bird, not a flock of birds, right?
[05:09:59] <Verithe> Right.
[05:10:09] <Random_Nerd> Thought so, but I wasn't sure how you meant "his flock might be from a different world "
[05:10:54] <Random_Nerd> Okay, hmm. How well does he remember his life?
[05:12:53] <Knockwood> (No, my mistake, the current age has lasted 7000 years)
[05:12:57] <Verithe> Before being enNobled, just a few shadows and emotions, if that much. He remembers the development of his Estate more than most things to do with the War.
[05:13:09] <Random_Nerd> (It's hard to keep track of, they changed the year numbering partway through.)
[05:13:45] <Verithe> He's somewhat easily distracted, so he didn't notice a lot of things.
[05:13:49] <Random_Nerd> That works.
[05:14:08] <Random_Nerd> That way, we can make him be chronologically that age, without having to have you play someone who's mentally that way.
[05:14:22] <Verithe> Yeah.
[05:15:04] <Random_Nerd> That sounds reasonable.
[05:15:16] <Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see. How does he relate to Ftisk?
[05:16:04] <Angelo> well I creating stuff and he assembling them together... will work well... but Ftisk can be a little annoying
[05:16:32] <Angelo> (right Dante?)
[05:16:50] <Knockwood> (I have no comment at this time.... :) )
[05:16:57] <Angelo> :-P
[05:18:11] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. What about other Nobles? Does he have any friends or rivals in other Families?
[05:18:21] <Verithe> As an individual, Chytosideron finds Ftisk new and interesting.
[05:18:34] <Angelo> I'm shinny!
[05:18:43] <Verithe> Exactly!
[05:18:50] <Angelo> I'm shinny!
[05:19:12] <Angelo> erg, was LOL but miss-typed
[05:19:38] <Verithe> As far as other Nobles, I held off on that because I wasn't sure if I should be introducing new Nobles or not.
[05:19:48] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. What about our existing cast?
[05:20:49] <Random_Nerd> It's not a complete list, but there's http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Amyra:Who%27s_Who
[05:21:53] <Knockwood> and I am working on expanding it. Just got to the 'Who you gonna call?' chapter...
[05:22:13] <Verithe> He's likely encountered Duty.
[05:22:51] <Random_Nerd> Okay. How do they feel about each other?
[05:23:52] <Angelo> and maybe you know (or better you know of) patterns too?
[05:25:00] <Verithe> I can't really speak for Duty, but Chytosideron probably finds him a little stiff, but helpful.
[05:26:23] <Verithe> If Patterns communicates with Chytosideron in the same way as he did with you guys, he'd prefer the man replaced.
[05:26:47] <Random_Nerd> He usually isn't quite that paranoid.
[05:26:48] <BethE> (Aww, I love the radishrooms on your deviant page, Verithe!)
[05:27:00] <Verithe> (Thanks!)
[05:27:06] <Random_Nerd> It's just that the PCs have gotten connected to about four of his pananoia topics within less than a year.
[05:27:35] <Angelo> every where we go we gather friends! *smile*
[05:27:37] <Random_Nerd> Let's see... Luc, Consequences, Ha'Qadosh, Entropy.
[05:27:45] <Random_Nerd> Less so with Entropy, of course.
[05:27:49] <Verithe> Alright. I don't think that Chytosideron would have touched many topics like that, so they're probably off of each others' radar.
[05:27:54] <Random_Nerd> But usually Patterns is at least... thirty percent nicer.
[05:28:03] <Random_Nerd> Which... still isn't saying much.
[05:28:10] <Verithe> Heh
[05:29:49] <Knockwood> So, he threatens to only have you 70% killed?
[05:30:00] <Verithe> Oh! He doesn't have much of an opinion in the Dark vs Light issue, so long as something sentient is around.
[05:30:02] <Random_Nerd> Heh.
[05:30:12] <Random_Nerd> Hmm. What does he think about Dionyl?
[05:31:21] <Verithe> The world or the being?
[05:31:33] <Random_Nerd> Both.
[05:32:20] <Verithe> He likes to explore, so he would probably like to visit the world at some point.
[05:32:46] <Verithe> His level of interest in the being depends on what they are wearing.
[05:33:19] <BethE> (Hmm, wonder what he thinks of the Triad.)
[05:33:27] <Verithe> The shinier the clothes, the more interesting they are. The fewer clothes they are wearing, the more wary of them he is.
[05:33:45] <Verithe> He's never met the Triad.
[05:34:07] <Knockwood> wonder how they react when he tries to swipe their buttons... :)
[05:34:19] <Verithe> Hehe
[05:35:51] <Random_Nerd> Okay. Now, do you have a character sheet ready?
[05:36:07] <Verithe> Yes
[05:36:13] <Random_Nerd> I'm going to say "build him on 25 points, but you'll get double CPs for completed stories until you catch up," like Ftisk.
[05:36:29] <Verithe> Alright.
[05:36:52] <Angelo> or Brian
[05:37:09] <Random_Nerd> Yeah.
[05:37:25] <Random_Nerd> Could you email me the character sheet at x@x.x?
[05:37:35] <Random_Nerd> Or better yet, post it with Google Docs, so we can all see it.
[05:37:44] <Verithe> Alright.
[05:38:44] <Angelo> (and make it modifiable by RN too)
[05:39:20] <Verithe> I have it as a PDF at the moment...
[05:39:42] <Knockwood> Or, you could put the info on the Wiki
[05:39:52] <Angelo> you can load pdf on gDoc
[05:40:03] <Angelo> and share them too
[05:41:18] <Verithe> http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B9TjT3v4ldhxYjI0NTlkNTgtOGVmZS00MDM1LWJlZGYtMTljZWI2YzFkNmVm&hl=en
[05:41:26] <Verithe> Ah!
[05:41:54] <Angelo> I have no rights to see the page... :-(
[05:42:09] <Knockwood> me neither
[05:43:08] <Random_Nerd> There, now it works.
[05:43:16] <Verithe> Working on it...
[05:43:22] <Angelo> yay!
[05:43:27] <Random_Nerd> The Code, is that Vulcan's Code, or a personal one?
[05:43:37] <Random_Nerd> Oh, Vulcans.
[05:43:41] <Random_Nerd> Vulcan's, even.
[05:43:45] <Verithe> It's one that was on Ftisk's sheet.
[05:43:47] <Verithe> Yeah
[05:43:58] <Random_Nerd> (Yeah. I just realized, "Well, I do have Ftisk's sheet right here...")
[05:44:20] <Random_Nerd> (Heh. I was right about the Domain.)
[05:44:47] <Random_Nerd> Your metal feathers gift is built on a Destruction. Is there a reason for that?
[05:45:18] <Angelo> (is a creation with grater power level?)
[05:45:22] <Verithe> It's built on a level of Aspect, not Domain. I based it, loosely off of Marsiglio's gift.
[05:45:40] <Random_Nerd> Ah, okay.
[05:46:19] <Verithe> I just powered it down a bit so it doesn't cut through ~everything~.
[05:46:34] <Random_Nerd> Now, I notice that it has no Penetration, which is a bit unusual for an offensive Gift. If you want something only useful on mortals or inanimate objects, you can generally get that benefit cheaper.
[05:47:34] <Verithe> I thought I gave it Penetration 3
[05:47:47] <Random_Nerd> Oh, there it is.
[05:47:57] <Random_Nerd> For some reason, I expected it to be on the end.
[05:48:12] <Random_Nerd> There you go.
[05:48:44] <Verithe> Does that gift look okay then?
[05:48:47] <Random_Nerd> Yes.
[05:49:04] <Random_Nerd> The only other thing that I'd mention is that you don't have any defensive Gifts. This is permissible, but can be risky, since the game does have occasional combat.
[05:49:07] <Verithe> Alright.
[05:49:16] <Random_Nerd> Is this a deliberate choice, or just a matter of not having enough points on hand?
[05:49:43] <Angelo> well the feathers can be used as defense to deflect blows, right?
[05:49:45] <Verithe> A little of both. I was considering buying some later.
[05:49:49] <Random_Nerd> That works.
[05:50:03] <Random_Nerd> And you do have flight, which could be used to keep away from danger.
[05:50:14] <Knockwood> (how'd he survive for 3000 years without 'em?)
[05:50:27] <Random_Nerd> I see that you have "Likes Shiny Things" as a Virtue. How do you intend for that to work?
[05:50:32] <Angelo> (staying very quit in a deep cave?)
[05:52:10] <Random_Nerd> (Well, he did say that he mostly avoided the War.)
[05:52:52] <Verithe> It was mostly there as an idea. He is distracted easily, so I was basing it on that.
[05:53:13] <Knockwood> ITYM Limit, not Virtue
[05:53:16] <Random_Nerd> True. But Virtues work in a very particular way.
[05:53:24] <Verithe> Right.
[05:53:44] <Random_Nerd> So, I'm just wondering how you see that as working. I think I'm okay with it, I just want to wrap my brain around it.
[05:53:46] <Verithe> I was having trouble with the potential benefit.
[05:54:27] <Random_Nerd> So, let's see.
[05:54:45] <Random_Nerd> No one could make him dislike shiny things, or trick him into disliking them.
[05:54:54] <Verithe> Right.
[05:54:56] <Random_Nerd> He'd always know what the shinies thing he can see is.
[05:55:14] <Random_Nerd> He could spent a Spirit MP to let everyone know how much he likes shiny things.
[05:55:27] <Random_Nerd> And if his liking for shiny things got him in horrific trouble, he'd get one MP.
[05:55:38] <Random_Nerd> So, it's odd, but I can see how it would work.
[05:56:43] <Random_Nerd> Is that how you wanted it to be?
[05:57:00] <Verithe> I think so.
[05:57:25] <Random_Nerd> In that case, I see no problems. Does anyone else?
[05:57:36] <Angelo> nope
[05:57:39] <Knockwood> You sure that's not a Limit?
[05:58:39] <Random_Nerd> Well, it depends on how he wants it to work.
[05:59:06] <Random_Nerd> And I think you mean a Restriction.
[05:59:23] <Random_Nerd> Limits directly... uh, limit... the miraculous powers of a Noble.
[06:00:02] <Random_Nerd> But at any rate, this isn't like some Restrictions, like Summonable, which would make no sense as a virtue.
[06:00:07] <Random_Nerd> This one's odd, but viable.
[06:00:20] <Knockwood> you're right
[06:00:44] <Knockwood> I mean Restriction
[06:01:22] <Knockwood> then again, considering Exs are shiny...
[06:01:34] <Verithe> Shhhh!
[06:01:42] <Random_Nerd> And their swords are even shinier...
[06:01:50] <Verithe> Ooooh!
[06:02:04] <Knockwood> yeah, that sounds like Potential Screwage to me.
[06:02:14] <Verithe> Hehe
[06:02:49] <Random_Nerd> Okay, I see no problem.
[06:02:57] <Verithe> Alright.
[06:02:59] <Random_Nerd> We only need to figure out how to introduce the character.
[06:03:32] <Random_Nerd> Now, the PCs had currently been in the process of going to visit Ja Phon, and it would be a bit difficult to fit him right in there. But on the other hand, I could see him going over to check in on Ftisk, after they get back home.
[06:03:46] <Knockwood> Ja Phon is hosting an interdimensional exhibition of Shiny Things...
[06:03:49] <Verithe> That works.
[06:04:00] <Verithe> I don't have to fit in right away.
[06:04:46] <Random_Nerd> Now, it's pretty late, do you guys want to try to start now, and have about twenty minutes of session? Or call it here, and start up again next week?
[06:04:49] <Angelo> or you can stay home with Ftisk
[06:05:05] <Angelo> next week I prefer
[06:05:06] <BethE> braaaains?
[06:05:30] <Random_Nerd> Sounds good.
[06:05:47] <Verithe> Sorry to take up the entire day! D:
[06:06:03] <Angelo> well was the same with me when I started. No pro
[06:06:27] <Knockwood> next week, I think
[06:07:15] <BethE> It's completely okay! Time is needed to make sure a character is how you want it to be.  :)
[06:08:46] <Angelo> btw your inhuman imperator have very human nobles (Dante Theresa), our Human imp have the inhuman ones (magma, bird, snail) :-P
[06:09:15] <Knockwood> debatable whether Vulcan really qualifies as human...
[06:09:48] <Angelo> is a True god... is humanlike a least. Your wild ... "thing" what is?
[06:10:01] <Knockwood> a force of nature. :)\
[06:10:09] <Angelo> :-P Good one!
[06:10:18] <Verithe> Hehe
[06:11:50] <Angelo> the game will remain grounded in Amyra, I don't see RN creating a new chancell from zero. right?
[06:12:33] <BethE> We'd need a lot more humans to die for us.
[06:12:39] <Random_Nerd> We may go to Locus Vulcan, now that we have two Nobles from there.
[06:13:03] <Random_Nerd> But I see the game as being more set in Amyra, if only because of how many brain-hours of setting design by all of us have gone into it.
[06:13:08] <Angelo> well I like Amyra, is really a rich chancel
[06:13:22] <Angelo> indeed
[06:13:28] <Random_Nerd> It's been the work of all of the players, not just myself.
[06:13:33] <Verithe> I don't mind staying Amyra-centric.
[06:13:38] <Random_Nerd> It really feels lived in, I think.
[06:14:47] <Angelo> sure
[06:14:48] <Knockwood> then again, at some point we really should see Locus Vulcan...
[06:14:54] <Random_Nerd> Yeah.
[06:15:06] <Random_Nerd> Not this storyline, but soon.
[06:15:10] <Angelo> Well I made some description of it in:
[06:15:22] <Angelo> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdC3luGT-QW2ZGdmZ2hiamdfNzBmNzgzdHdmcg&hl=it
[06:15:51] <Verithe> Which is good, because it lets me know what home looks like.
[06:15:58] <Angelo> but is a bit... scarce...
[06:16:17] <BethE> Well guys, I'm going to head to bed! I've enjoyed the birth of a new Noble. Who is not a James.  :)
[06:16:33] <Knockwood> good night Beth
[06:16:39] <Verithe> Good night!
[06:16:46] <Random_Nerd> Interesting new character, Verithe.
[06:16:47] <Angelo> night Beth!
[06:16:54] <Random_Nerd> It'll be fun to see how he fits into the group.
[06:17:01] <Random_Nerd> Anyway, see you guys next week.
[06:17:04] <Verithe> Thanks! I agree!
[06:17:07] <Verithe> Take care!
[06:17:10] <Angelo> Bye RN!
[06:17:16] <Knockwood> good night RN
[06:17:41] <Angelo> I have a question, how many are the Vulcan’s Nobles?
[06:17:56] <Random_Nerd> You tell me.
[06:18:03] <Random_Nerd> The two of you, rather.
[06:18:24] <Angelo> eheh is a open question. Now Vulcan have 3 nobles
[06:18:59] <Knockwood> well, figure out what Vulcan would be Imperator of...
[06:19:25] <Angelo> (but if someone want join later? I prefer to gloss over the exact number if possible)
[06:19:39] <Knockwood> Machinery, Data, Assembly... Craftsmen. Metals. Marriages of 'Convenience'.
[06:19:44] <Angelo> he is imp of volcanoes and tech advancement
[06:19:48] <Random_Nerd> (That sounds good.)
[06:19:59] <Angelo> last is roftlmao-astic!
[06:20:13] <Random_Nerd> Arguably, he isn't Imperator of Data. That's more an offshoot of Ftisk's.
[06:20:14] <Verithe> Hehe
[06:20:24] <Angelo> true!
[06:20:25] <Random_Nerd> In the same way that Blades isn't as core an estate of Kudzu's as Courage.
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[06:20:58] <Knockwood> ... isn't that the other way around?
[06:21:06] <Random_Nerd> Which is the primary Estate?
[06:21:21] <Angelo> and as curiosity, when I ask on betrayed love you se that that was not the 3th estate you expect I take... what do you think I'll have take as 3th estate?
[06:21:22] <Knockwood> Well, wait, he 'swiped' Blades from Azazel... and created Courage. Never mind.
[06:21:52] <Random_Nerd> Metaphysically and historically speaking, either is justifiable.
[06:22:07] <Knockwood> afk
[06:22:08] <Random_Nerd> Okay, fine, but I'm violating Rule Zero Prime.
[06:22:13] <Random_Nerd> I thought you'd take Active Writing.
[06:22:29] <Angelo> no pro, I brake myself :-P
[06:22:42] <Angelo> oh, never cross my mind that estate.
[06:22:48] <Random_Nerd> Well... I mean, you /could/. It's even conceptually close to Ftisk's estates.
[06:23:23] <Angelo> really I want to shop for an estate that can be excruciated without too much loss
[06:23:44] <Random_Nerd> And that's a completely /different/ metaphysical crowbar designed to give me headaches!
[06:23:53] <Random_Nerd> So I was right that you'd pick something devious, at least.
[06:24:09] <Angelo> ... because I have some mad theories to check ... involving outer side.
[06:24:44] <Random_Nerd> For science!
[06:24:51] <Random_Nerd> But anyway, I must sleep.
[06:24:59] <Angelo> eheh betrayed L. was a perfect pick but with your argument that the estate will just be damaged but not fully excruciated then :-(
[06:24:59] <Random_Nerd> Later, guys.
[06:25:01] <Verithe> Sleep well!
[06:25:11] <Angelo> well, ok, good night!
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[06:26:42] <Angelo> well I head off too night guys!!!
[06:26:56] <Verithe> Take care!
[06:27:15] <Verithe> I have to run to the store. Bye!
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[06:29:12] <Knockwood> bak just in time to say good morning, Angelo
[06:29:24] <Angelo> night Knock
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Chancel_Amyra
Chapter 16