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	==='''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES'''===		==='''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES'''===
	*Master Dice are available but are now much rarer and are linked with flaws. You get them at character creation when you choose a template (class). Not all characters get them and only at a price. In B-Grade i have renamed them '''Hammer Time''' (~~HaD~~) dice in tribute to Hammer films ''(plus i like the idea of saying Hammer time as often as possible during combat..)''		*Master Dice are available but are now much rarer and are linked with flaws. You get them at character creation when you choose a template (class). Not all characters get them and only at a price. In B-Grade i have renamed them '''Hammer Time''' (HTD) dice in tribute to Hammer films ''(plus i like the idea of saying Hammer time as often as possible during combat..)''
	*No squishing dicepools		*No squishing dicepools

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	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===
	*As normal		*As normal
			*Combat modifiers
			**Aim - +1d next turn (maximum 2 rounds aiming bonus)
			**Range modifiers: Short range +1d; Medium range 0d; Long range -1d
			**Very large Objects or Stationary objects +2d


	==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===		==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===
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	==='''WEAPONS'''===		==='''WEAPONS'''===
	*As normal		*As normal
			*Weapon Qualities
			**Penetration:
			**Explosive
			**Area
			**Burn
			**Fast - initiative bonus. Treat set as 1 wider for initiative purposes only.
			**Non-lethal
			**Slow
			**Spray

Dday at 23:18, 23 January 2008

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Dday at 23:05, 23 January 2008

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	==='''COMBAT'''===		==='''COMBAT - WIP ALTERNATE'''===
			*'''I'll be using the reign ore combat system for now. Once i get a better feel for ORE, then i'll revisit these alternate rules.'''

	*''The combat system in B-Grade is a variant of ORE combat (and builds on the previous work i have done on torglike). Here is the combat system. Still a work in progress. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.''		*''The combat system in B-Grade is a variant of ORE combat (and builds on the previous work i have done on torglike). Here is the combat system. Still a work in progress. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.''
	*''Founding Principles:''		*''Founding Principles:''

Dday at 21:53, 22 January 2008

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	**maneuver to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)		**maneuver to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)
	**Knockdown opponent		**Knockdown opponent
	*Width 4 = ~~Good~~ success (critical blow) = 1 wound level and either		*Width 4 and beyond = Spectacular success (critical blow) = 1 wound level and either
	**An additional wound level		**An additional wound level
	**Disarm opponent		**Disarm opponent
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	**maneuver to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)		**maneuver to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)
	**Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).		**Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).
	*~~Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 2 wound levels and either~~		*Note that certain weapons will give further options to choose from when you hit at certain widths.
	**An additonal wound level
	**Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)
	**Destroy armour

	==='''WOUNDS'''===		==='''WOUNDS'''===

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2008-01-18T16:58:41Z

'''WOUNDS'''

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	***Serious - more serious cuts and bleeding. some effect on combat effectiveness. -1d on every stat and skill (which means that generally combat effectiveness is reduced by 2).		***Serious - more serious cuts and bleeding. some effect on combat effectiveness. -1d on every stat and skill (which means that generally combat effectiveness is reduced by 2).
	***Critical - possibly internal bleeding, deep cuts. major effect on combat effectiveness.		***Critical - possibly internal bleeding, deep cuts. major effect on combat effectiveness.

	***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)		***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)

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	(''everything below needs work and a rethink!'')		(''everything below needs work and a rethink!'')
	When you hit, you start from the top(for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves an unarmoured character from unharmed to ~~serious~~. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action. Note that every hit starts again from the top. If you keep on getting damaged with width 4 sets and are unarmoured, you will only ever experience serious hits. (''i'm trying to engineer it so that characters exit combat mainly due to knockout'').		When you hit, you start from the top(for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves an unarmoured character from unharmed to superficial. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action.

	==='''ARMOUR'''===		==='''ARMOUR'''===

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	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===
	*Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down		*Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down
	**For Melee Combat: Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice) Average of Dex + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)		**For Melee Combat: Threat = Average of body and Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice) Average of Dex and Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	**For ranged combat (Projectile): Threat = Average of Dex + Dodge		**For ranged combat (Projectile): Threat = Average of Dex and Dodge
	**For ranged combat (Firearms): Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)		**For ranged combat (Firearms): Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)
	*Cover modifiers may change your threat value. If cover is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.		*Cover modifiers may change your threat value. If cover is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.
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	**maneuver to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)		**maneuver to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)
	**Knockdown opponent		**Knockdown opponent
	*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 2 wound ~~levels~~ and either		*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 1 wound level and either
			**An additional wound level
	**Disarm opponent		**Disarm opponent
	**Knock a die out of the opponents dicepool this round.		**Knock a die out of the opponents dicepool this round.
	**maneuver to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)		**maneuver to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)
	**Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).		**Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).
	*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 3 wound levels and either		*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 2 wound levels and either
			**An additonal wound level
	**Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)		**Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)
	**Destroy armour		**Destroy armour

	==='''WOUNDS'''===		==='''WOUNDS'''===
	There are 4 types of damage in ~~torglike~~ - shock, knockdown, knockout and wounds.		There are 4 types of damage in B-Grade: shock, knockdown, knockout and wounds.
	*SHOCK		*SHOCK
	**A character can take a maximum of Body ~~+ armour~~ worth of shock before being ~~knocked out~~.		**A character can take a maximum of Body worth of shock before being defeated (then they must surrender or flee).
	*KNOCKDOWN		*KNOCKDOWN
	**All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 threat until they stand up.		**All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 threat until they stand up.
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	**Knocked out for x rounds (''effectively the same as 'downed' in reign'')		**Knocked out for x rounds (''effectively the same as 'downed' in reign'')
	*WOUNDS		*WOUNDS
	**~~Wounds are different too.~~ There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead~~, fusing the storyteller system and TORG,~~ there are now a number of wound levels.		**There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead there are now a number of wound levels.
	***~~[Hard Armour]~~		***Unharmed (where uninjured characters start)
	***[Light Armour]		***Superficial - minor cuts and bruises. No effect on combat effectiveness
	***~~Unharmed/~~Superficial - no effect on combat effectiveness		***Serious - more serious cuts and bleeding. some effect on combat effectiveness. -1d on every stat and skill (which means that generally combat effectiveness is reduced by 2).
	***Serious - some effect on combat effectiveness		***Critical - possibly internal bleeding, deep cuts. major effect on combat effectiveness.
	***Critical - major effect on combat effectiveness
	***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)		***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)

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	==='''ARMOUR'''===		==='''ARMOUR'''===
	There are 2 basic types of Armour, light and hard. Also, armour is bulky or non-bulky. Generally, light armour is non-bulky and heavy armour is bulky. Armour degrades when sufficiently hit, reflecting that weak spots have become exposed. (''certain types of armour will provide other bonuses and have certain penalties as well'')		*There are 2 basic types of Armour, light and hard. Also, armour is bulky or non-bulky. Generally, light armour is non-bulky and heavy armour is bulky. Armour degrades when sufficiently hit, reflecting that weak spots have become exposed. (''certain types of armour will provide other bonuses and have certain penalties as well'')
			*Armour has shock as well, and can take a certain number of shock before being non-functional. Shock Damage taken in combat is first deducted from armour shock. When the maximum shock value of the armour is reached, any further shock is applied to the wearer instead.
			**Light armour has around 5 shock.
			**Heavy armour has around 10 shock.
			*Some armour (mainly heavy) also have wounds (basically the integrity of the armour). These types of armour can take a certain number of wounds before becoming non-functional. Wound damage taken in combat is first deducted from armour wounds. When the maximum wound value of the armour is reached, any further wounds are applied to the wearer instead.
			**Light armour has 0-1 wounds
			**Heavy armour has 1-3 wounds
			*Note that armour non-functional for shock (generally quite damaged and no longer providing the all round protection it used to) may still be functional for wounds (as it still protects vital spots)


	==='''WEAPONS'''===		==='''WEAPONS'''===

Dday: /* '''INITIATIVE''' */

2008-01-16T22:30:00Z

'''INITIATIVE'''

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	==='''INITIATIVE'''===		==='''INITIATIVE'''===
	The largest Area set now goes ~~first, though if this is too unwieldly in playtesting, then it may return to widest sets go~~ first (''~~Why should wide sets go~~ first ~~however? Can small widths go first in combat? If they do~~, ~~then this~~ would be more reflective of how combat is shown in ~~action~~ films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last~~. The only other alternative (and a compromise) is to make the largest AREA go first (width x height). This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing.~~'')		The largest Area (width x height) set now goes first (''This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing. it would also be more reflective of how combat is shown in films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last'').

	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===

Dday: /* '''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES''' */

2008-01-16T22:27:48Z

'''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES'''

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	==='''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES'''===		==='''A NOTE ON SPECIAL DICE AND OPTIONAL RULES'''===
	*Expert dice no longer are available (''can't see the need as hit locations are now removed'').		*Expert dice no longer are available (''can't see the need as hit locations are now removed'').
	*Master Dice are available but are now much rarer and are linked with flaws. You get them at character creation when you choose a template (class). In B-Grade i have renamed them '''Hammer Time''' (HT) dice in tribute to Hammer films ''(plus i like the idea of saying Hammer time as often as possible during combat..)''		*Master Dice are available but are now much rarer and are linked with flaws. You get them at character creation when you choose a template (class). Not all characters get them and only at a price. In B-Grade i have renamed them '''Hammer Time''' (HT) dice in tribute to Hammer films ''(plus i like the idea of saying Hammer time as often as possible during combat..)''
	*No squishing dicepools		*No squishing dicepools
	*dicepools can exceed to 10 dice		*dicepools can exceed to 10 dice

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	*If attacking in close combat, roll:		*If attacking in close combat, roll:
	**Dex + weapon skill of weapon used (for finesse weapons)		**Dex + weapon skill of weapon used (for finesse weapons)
	**~~Dex~~ + Martial arts (for martial art fighting)		**Body + Martial arts (for martial art fighting)
	**Body + Fight (for basic weapons that are just swing'n'thump!)		**Body + Fight (for basic weapons that are just swing'n'thump!)
	**Body + Brawl (for unarmed basic combat).		**Body + Brawl (for unarmed basic combat).

121.45.42.62 at 02:07, 16 January 2008

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	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===
	*Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down		*Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down
	**[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice) Average of Dex + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)		**For Melee Combat: Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice) Average of Dex + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	**[[For Projectile ~~combat~~:]] Threat = Average of Dex + Dodge		**For ranged combat (Projectile): Threat = Average of Dex + Dodge
	**[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)		**For ranged combat (Firearms): Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)
	*Cover modifiers may change your threat value. If cover is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.		*Cover modifiers may change your threat value. If cover is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.
	**Cover7 = you are Hiding most of body behind a barrel		**Cover7 = you are Hiding most of body behind a barrel
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	**Body + Fight (for basic weapons that are just swing'n'thump!)		**Body + Fight (for basic weapons that are just swing'n'thump!)
	**Body + Brawl (for unarmed basic combat).		**Body + Brawl (for unarmed basic combat).
	If attacking in ranged combat, roll:		*If attacking in ranged combat, roll:
	*Dex + Weapon skill of weapon used (for projectile weapons from throwing knives to bows)		**Dex + Weapon skill of weapon used (for projectile weapons from throwing knives to bows)
	*Dex + Weapon skill of weapon used (for guns, but only if firing a single shot)		**Dex + Weapon skill of weapon used (for guns, but only if firing a single shot)
	*Gunpool (for spraying the area with a gun)		**Gunpool (for spraying the area with a gun)
	*Gunpool + Weapon skill (for full auto with a gun)		**Gunpool + Weapon skill (for full auto with a gun)

	*Results of hitting in combat		*Results of hitting in combat