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Dday at 22:25, 16 January 2008

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			='''IMPORTANT NEWS'''=
			I'm abandoning torglike for now as i have decided to run a different setting instead (called B-Grade). It also uses ORE and is built on the changes i have made here. I'll be finishing off the combat system (and other bits and pieces) here instead -> [[B-Grade_Combat]]

			(and for the rest of the rules such as magic, character templates, stats and skills, etc) -> [[B-Grade]]



	== Index ==		== Index ==

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	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===
	Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down		Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down
	*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice ~~optional~~) Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)		*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice) Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	*[[For Projectile combat:]] Threat = Average of Coord + Dodge		*[[For Projectile combat:]] Threat = Average of Coord + Dodge
	*[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)		*[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)

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	'''Rules'''		'''Rules'''

	[[Basic Rules]]		[[Basic Rules, attributes and skills]]
	[[Combat]]		[[Combat]]
	~~[[Damage]]~~
	[[Equipment]]		[[Equipment]]
	[[Magic]]		[[Magic]]

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			== Index ==

			'''Rules'''

			[[Basic Rules]]
			[[Combat]]
			[[Damage]]
			[[Equipment]]
			[[Magic]]
			[[Miracles]]
			[[Powers]]

	== '''COMBAT''' (''Designer's notes are in italics'') ==		== '''COMBAT''' (''Designer's notes are in italics'') ==

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	==='''INITIATIVE'''===		==='''INITIATIVE'''===

	The largest Area set now goes first, though if this is too unwieldly in playtesting, then it may return to widest sets go first (''Why should wide sets go first however? Can small widths go first in combat? If they do, then this would be more reflective of how combat is shown in action films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last. The only other alternative (and a compromise) is to make the largest AREA go first (width x height). This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing.'')		The largest Area set now goes first, though if this is too unwieldly in playtesting, then it may return to widest sets go first (''Why should wide sets go first however? Can small widths go first in combat? If they do, then this would be more reflective of how combat is shown in action films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last. The only other alternative (and a compromise) is to make the largest AREA go first (width x height). This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing.'')

	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===
			Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down
	Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down ~~(GM's revenge...that'll piss off the players)~~		*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' (player's choice optional) Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	*[[For Projectile combat:]] Threat = Average of Coord + Dodge		*[[For Projectile combat:]] Threat = Average of Coord + Dodge
	*[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)		*[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)
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	To hit in combat		To hit in combat
	Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round. If attacking, roll Coord + weapon skill.		Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round. If attacking, roll Coord + weapon skill.
	*Width 2 sets hit only if they are greater than the enemy's Threat. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a Threat of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)		*Width 2 sets hit only if they are equal to or greater than the enemy's Threat. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a Threat of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)
	*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll over Threat. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (''Otherwise, threat is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below.'')		*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll equal to or over Threat. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (''Otherwise, threat is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below.'')

	ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (''the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows. This may change with playtesting'').		ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (''the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows. This may change with playtesting'').

	==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===		==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===
			Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. Sets of '''any''' width that attack the defender this round (from all foes) must be equal to or greater than threat to hit. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimising the chance of getting critical hits on you'')
	Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. Sets of '''any''' width that attack the defender this round must be greater than threat to hit. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimising the chance of getting critical hits on you'')

	==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===		==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===

	The quality of a success is different in Torglike Combat (in combat anyway, not sure whether this should carry over to non-combat situations...Probably not).		The quality of a success is different in Torglike Combat (in combat anyway, not sure whether this should carry over to non-combat situations...Probably not).
	Width 2 = minimal success, Width 3 = adequate success, Width 4 = Good success, Width 5 = Spectacular success		Width 2 = minimal success, Width 3 = adequate success, Width 4 = Good success, Width 5 = Spectacular success
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	Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.		Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.

			(''below needs work and a rethink!'')
	When you hit, you start from the top(for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves an unarmoured character from unharmed to serious. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action. Note that every hit starts again from the top. If you keep on getting damaged with width 4 sets and are unarmoured, you will only ever experience serious hits. (''i'm trying to engineer it so that characters exit combat mainly due to knockout'').		When you hit, you start from the top(for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves an unarmoured character from unharmed to serious. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action. Note that every hit starts again from the top. If you keep on getting damaged with width 4 sets and are unarmoured, you will only ever experience serious hits. (''i'm trying to engineer it so that characters exit combat mainly due to knockout'').

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	Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down (GM's revenge...that'll piss off the players)		Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down (GM's revenge...that'll piss off the players)
	*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)		*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	*[[For Projectile combat:]] ~~Defense~~ = Average of Coord + Dodge		*[[For Projectile combat:]] Threat = Average of Coord + Dodge
	*[[For Firearms:]] ~~Defense~~ = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)		*[[For Firearms:]] Threat = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)
	Also note that cover modifiers also are accounted for here. Hiding behind a barrel offers a cover rating (say 7). If cover is great than ~~Defense~~, use the better/higher number.		Also note that cover modifiers also are accounted for here. Hiding behind a barrel offers a cover rating (say 7). If cover is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.
	Also note that Distance modifiers are also accounted for here, reflecting how far the target is from the aggressor. Long range has a distance modifier of 8. Medium range is 6. If distance is great than ~~Defense~~, use the better/higher number.		Also note that Distance modifiers are also accounted for here, reflecting how far the target is from the aggressor. Long range has a distance modifier of 8. Medium range is 6. If distance is great than Threat, use the better/higher number.

	To hit in combat		To hit in combat
	Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round. If attacking, roll Coord + weapon skill.		Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round. If attacking, roll Coord + weapon skill.
	*Width 2 sets hit only if they are greater than the enemy's ~~defense value~~. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a ~~defense~~ of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)		*Width 2 sets hit only if they are greater than the enemy's Threat. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a Threat of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)
	*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll over ~~the defense number~~. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (''Otherwise, ~~defense~~ is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below.'')		*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll over Threat. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (''Otherwise, threat is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below.'')

	ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (''the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows. This may change with playtesting'').		ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (''the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows. This may change with playtesting'').
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	==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===		==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===

	Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. Sets of '''any''' width that attack the defender this round must be greater than ~~the defense value~~ to hit. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimising the chance of getting critical hits on you'')		Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. Sets of '''any''' width that attack the defender this round must be greater than threat to hit. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimising the chance of getting critical hits on you'')

	==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===		==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===
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	***[Hard Armour]		***[Hard Armour]
	***[Light Armour]		***[Light Armour]
	***Unharmed/Superficial - no effect on combat		***Unharmed/Superficial - no effect on combat effectiveness
	***Serious		***Serious - some effect on combat effectiveness
	***Critical		***Critical - major effect on combat effectiveness
	***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)		***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)

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	==='''WEAPONS'''===		==='''WEAPONS'''===
	To be completed. (''Weapons generally do not increase the damage in combat (such as shock or wounds). Instead they offer benefits to dice pool, or do other things, such as provide additional options when a wielder successful hits (for example, a fighter with a man-catcher has the option of grabbing an opponent on a successful width 3 hit.'')		To be completed. (''Weapons generally do not increase the damage in combat (such as shock or wounds). Instead they offer benefits to dice pool, or do other things, such as provide additional options when a wielder successful hits '').
			(''for example, a fighter with a man-catcher has the option of grabbing an opponent on a successful width 3 hit.'')
			(''daggers can be drawn without having to spend an action drawing/readying the weapon'')

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	#Combat should be fast and abstract rather than specific (''so no hit locations'')		#Combat should be fast and abstract rather than specific (''so no hit locations'')
	#Combat should have room for stunts, manuevering, and have a pulp/high adventure/action movie feel.		#Combat should have room for stunts, manuevering, and have a pulp/high adventure/action movie feel.
	#Combat should be simple (''but not so simplified that it has no room for occasional complexity'')		#Combat should be fairly simple but needs variety (''but not so simplified that it has no room for occasional complexity'')
			#Combat should not be all about the Coord stat.

	The combat system in torglike is based off the ore combat system but is heavily modified to better support the above principles. Therefore a number of modifications have been made (note that the drama deck has yet to be incorporated into this system, so the system as it stands is so far just an ORE combat variant).		The combat system in torglike is based off the ore combat system but is heavily modified to better support the above principles. Therefore a number of modifications have been made (note that the drama deck has yet to be incorporated into this system, so the system as it stands is so far just an ORE combat variant).
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	==='''INITIATIVE'''===		==='''INITIATIVE'''===

	The largest Area set now goes first, though if this is too unwieldly in playtesting, then it may return to widest sets go first (''Why should wide sets go first however? Can small widths go first in combat? If they do, then this would be more reflective of how combat is shown in action films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last.~~'')~~ The only other alternative (and a compromise) is to make the largest AREA go first (width x height). This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing.		The largest Area set now goes first, though if this is too unwieldly in playtesting, then it may return to widest sets go first (''Why should wide sets go first however? Can small widths go first in combat? If they do, then this would be more reflective of how combat is shown in action films - eg in a combat such as the troll combat in fellowship of the ring, the small hits happen first (the glancing blows), and then the killing blows act last. The only other alternative (and a compromise) is to make the largest AREA go first (width x height). This would increase the chance of smaller hits going first, which i think is a good thing.'')

	==='''HITTING'''===		==='''HITTING'''===

	Every character has a ~~defense~~ value (~~similar to~~ Reign's threat value). ~~The defense value~~ changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down (GM's revenge...that'll piss off the players)		Every character has a 'threat' value (like Reign's threat value for unworthy opponents, except extending now to PCs). Threat changes according to circumstance. Nb - When averaging, always round down (GM's revenge...that'll piss off the players)
	*[[For Melee Combat:]] ~~Defense~~ = Average of body + ~~Melee~~ skill (if in armour) '''OR''' Average of Coord + ~~Melee~~ skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)		*[[For Melee Combat:]] Threat = Average of body + Weapon skill (if in armour) '''OR''' Average of Coord + Weapon skill (if in non-bulky/no armour)
	*[[For Projectile combat:]] Defense = Average of Coord + Dodge		*[[For Projectile combat:]] Defense = Average of Coord + Dodge
			*[[For Firearms:]] Defense = Body (you can't dodge bullets. Best to be far away from the firer (distance modifier) or in cover (cover modifier)
	Also note that cover modifiers also are accounted for here. Hiding behind a barrel offers a cover rating (say 7). If cover is great than Defense, use the better/higher number.		Also note that cover modifiers also are accounted for here. Hiding behind a barrel offers a cover rating (say 7). If cover is great than Defense, use the better/higher number.
			Also note that Distance modifiers are also accounted for here, reflecting how far the target is from the aggressor. Long range has a distance modifier of 8. Medium range is 6. If distance is great than Defense, use the better/higher number.

	To hit in combat		To hit in combat
	Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round.		Every combatant rolls a dice pool as normal at the start of the round. If attacking, roll Coord + weapon skill.
	*Width 2 sets hit only if they are greater than the enemy's defense value. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a defense of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)		*Width 2 sets hit only if they are greater than the enemy's defense value. Eg. a 2x6 set will hit someone with a defense of 6 or less. It won't hit the guy hiding behind the barrel (cover 7)
	*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll over the defense number. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (Otherwise, defense is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below)		*Width 3 or greater sets do NOT need to roll over the defense number. They are sufficiently good enough to hit. (''Otherwise, defense is too good, and width greater than 3 sets are rare enough as it is. However, this changes when actively defending, as shown below.'')

	ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows).		ALSO, hitting an opponent does '''NOT''' knock out one die from the opponent's set. (''the reason for this change is that i have changed the damage system. Width 2 hits now only do a little shock damage as they are just glancing blows. This may change with playtesting'').

	==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===		==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===

	Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. ~~It increases the chances~~ of ~~not being hit by forcing~~ '''any''' ~~sets of any~~ width that attack the defender this round to be greater ~~or equal to~~ the defense ~~roll~~. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on ~~minimsing~~ the chance of getting critical hits on you'')		Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. Sets of '''any''' width that attack the defender this round must be greater than the defense value to hit. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimising the chance of getting critical hits on you'')

	==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===		==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===
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	**manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)		**manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)
	*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either		*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either
	**Use other successes in your dice pool as attacks (effectively a multiple action attack without first declaring and the -1 dice penalty)		**Use other successes in your dice pool as attacks (effectively a multiple action attack without first declaring and without the -1 dice penalty)
	**manuevering to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)		**manuevering to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)
	**Knockdown opponent		**Knockdown opponent
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	**All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 defense until they stand up.		**All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 defense until they stand up.
	*KNOCKOUT		*KNOCKOUT
	**Knocked out for x rounds		**Knocked out for x rounds (''effectively the same as 'downed' in reign'')
	*WOUNDS		*WOUNDS
	**Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.		**Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.
	***[Hard Armour]		***[Hard Armour]
	***[Light Armour]		***[Light Armour]
	***Unharmed/Superficial		***Unharmed/Superficial - no effect on combat
	***Serious		***Serious
	***Critical		***Critical

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	In combat, there are a few options of what you can do based on the degree of success of your set (''this is still all work in progress'')		In combat, there are a few options of what you can do based on the degree of success of your set (''this is still all work in progress'')
	*Width 2 = minimal success (glancing blow) = 1 shock point and either		*Width 2 = minimal success (glancing blow) = 1 shock point and either
	##an additional shock point		**an additional shock point
	##manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)		**manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)
	*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either		*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either
	##Use other successes in your dice pool as attacks (effectively a multiple action attack without first declaring and the -1 dice penalty)		**Use other successes in your dice pool as attacks (effectively a multiple action attack without first declaring and the -1 dice penalty)
	##manuevering to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)		**manuevering to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)
	##Knockdown opponent		**Knockdown opponent
	*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 2 wound levels and either		*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 2 wound levels and either
	##Disarm opponent		**Disarm opponent
	##manuevering to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)		**manuevering to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)
	##Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).		**Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).
	*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 3 wound levels and either		*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 3 wound levels and either
	##Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)		**Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)
	##		**

	==='''WOUNDS'''===		==='''WOUNDS'''===
	There are 3 types of damage in torglike - shock, knockdown, knockout and wounds.		There are 4 types of damage in torglike - shock, knockdown, knockout and wounds.
	#SHOCK		*SHOCK
	*A character can take a maximum of Body + armour worth of shock before being knocked out.		**A character can take a maximum of Body + armour worth of shock before being knocked out.
	#KNOCKDOWN		*KNOCKDOWN
	*All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 defense until they stand up.		**All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 defense until they stand up.
	#KNOCKOUT		*KNOCKOUT
	*Knocked out for x rounds		**Knocked out for x rounds
	#WOUNDS		*WOUNDS
	Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.		**Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.
	*[Hard Armour]		***[Hard Armour]
	*[Light Armour]		***[Light Armour]
	*Unharmed/Superficial		***Unharmed/Superficial
	*Serious		***Serious
	*Critical		***Critical
	*Out of Action (instantly out of combat)		***Out of Action (instantly out of combat)

	Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.		Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.

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	Master Dice are also no longer available as fixed dice that can be bought with experience and added to a character's skill permanently. The master dice concept has mutated into possibility dice (a torg concept).		Master Dice are also no longer available as fixed dice that can be bought with experience and added to a character's skill permanently. The master dice concept has mutated into possibility dice (a torg concept).

	Here is the combat system		Here is the combat system. Still a work in progress. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

	==='''INITIATIVE'''===		==='''INITIATIVE'''===
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	==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===		==='''ACTIVE PARRY AND DODGE'''===

	Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. It increases the chances of not being hit by forcing '''any''' sets of any width that attack the defender this round to be greater or equal to the defense roll. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimsing the chance of getting critical hits on you'')		Actively parrying or dodging does not involve dice (''I am not a big fan of gobble dice in combat. I think it complicates things a bit too much.''), it is a full round action, and cannot be used in a multiple-action. It increases the chances of not being hit by forcing '''any''' sets of any width that attack the defender this round to be greater or equal to the defense roll. This includes widths of 3 or greater (''which means that critical hits are less likely. In effect, actively defending doesn't do anything in reducing the chance of glancing blows, but has a huge effect on minimsing the chance of getting critical hits on you'')

	==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===		==='''DAMAGE RESULTS'''===
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	In combat, there are a few options of what you can do based on the degree of success of your set (''this is still all work in progress'')		In combat, there are a few options of what you can do based on the degree of success of your set (''this is still all work in progress'')
	*Width 2 = minimal success (glancing blow) = 1 shock point and either		*Width 2 = minimal success (glancing blow) = 1 shock point and either
	##an additional shock point		##an additional shock point
	##manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)		##manuevering to a better position (+1 dice to dice pool next round)
	*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either		*Width 3 = adequate success (a solid whack) = 1 wound level and either
	##		##Use other successes in your dice pool as attacks (effectively a multiple action attack without first declaring and the -1 dice penalty)
	##		##manuevering to a better position (+3 dice to dice pool next round)
			##Knockdown opponent
	*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 2 wound levels and either		*Width 4 = Good success (critical blow) = 2 wound levels and either
	##		##Disarm opponent
	##		##manuevering to a better position (+5 dice to dice pool next round)
			##Degrade armour by one level (hard armour now becomes light for the rest of the combat, light armour provides no protection).
	*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 3 wound levels and either		*Width 5 = Spectacular success (crippling blow) = 3 wound levels and either
	##		##Knockout opponent for height rounds (the height of the spectacular success)
	##		##

	==='''WOUNDS'''===		==='''WOUNDS'''===
			There are 3 types of damage in torglike - shock, knockdown, knockout and wounds.
			#SHOCK
			*A character can take a maximum of Body + armour worth of shock before being knocked out.
			#KNOCKDOWN
			*All attacks from any foe on a fallen opponent have a +1 die bonus while they are on the ground. Opponents on the ground have a -1die to dice pool and -1 defense until they stand up.
			#KNOCKOUT
			*Knocked out for x rounds
			#WOUNDS
	Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.		Wounds are different too. There are no hit locations and no wound boxes per location. Instead, fusing the storyteller system and TORG, there are now a number of wound levels.
	*[Hard Armour]		*[Hard Armour]
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	Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.		Note that the wound experienced is not evaluated until a later date. In combat, it isn't the wound that is important, it is the effect this wound has on your ability to continue fighting. Only when first aid, or vigor is rolled is the severity of the wound finally determined.

	When you hit, you start from the ~~unharmed~~ (for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves a character from unharmed to serious. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action.		When you hit, you start from the top(for those not wearing armour this would be the unharmed wound level), and count off the damage of the hit. A width3 set (causing 1 wound) moves an unarmoured character from unharmed to serious. Width 4 (2 wounds of damage) moves a character from unharmed to critical. A width 5 hit (3 wounds) moves a character from unharmed straight to Out of action. Note that every hit starts again from the top. If you keep on getting damaged with width 4 sets and are unarmoured, you will only ever experience serious hits. (''i'm trying to engineer it so that characters exit combat mainly due to knockout'').

	==='''ARMOUR'''===		==='''ARMOUR'''===
	There are 2 basic types of Armour, light and hard. Also, armour is bulky or non-bulky. Generally, light armour is non-bulky and heavy armour is bulky. Armour degrades when sufficiently hit, reflecting that weak spots have become exposed.		There are 2 basic types of Armour, light and hard. Also, armour is bulky or non-bulky. Generally, light armour is non-bulky and heavy armour is bulky. Armour degrades when sufficiently hit, reflecting that weak spots have become exposed. (''certain types of armour will provide other bonuses and have certain penalties as well'')

	==='''WEAPONS'''===		==='''WEAPONS'''===
			To be completed. (''Weapons generally do not increase the damage in combat (such as shock or wounds). Instead they offer benefits to dice pool, or do other things, such as provide additional options when a wielder successful hits (for example, a fighter with a man-catcher has the option of grabbing an opponent on a successful width 3 hit.'')