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Skalchemist: Deleted rules, because they are now published

2009-07-13T18:29:32Z

Deleted rules, because they are now published

159.212.71.200: /* 1.5.10.3 */

2007-11-19T20:07:52Z

1.5.10.3

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	~~====1.5.10.3====~~

	====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====		====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====

159.212.71.200: /* There are more than two of us involved in a conflict. */

2007-11-19T20:07:16Z

There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.

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	====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====		====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====

159.212.71.200: /* Someone uses a [Mastery] */

2007-11-19T20:06:10Z

Someone uses a <font color=blue>[Mastery]</font>

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			====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====
	~~'''1.5.10.3'''~~ ====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====

	Well, maybe the third character is helping one of ours.		Well, maybe the third character is helping one of ours.

159.212.71.200: /* There are more than two of us involved in a conflict. */

2007-11-19T20:01:26Z

There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.

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	====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====		'''1.5.10.3''' ====There are more than two of us involved in a conflict.====

	Well, maybe the third character is helping one of ours.		Well, maybe the third character is helping one of ours.
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	Repeat this whole process down the line, highest roll to lowest, until everyone has challenged, answered, or dropped out. At that point, everyone who's still in the conflict goes forward into a next round. Pick up your dice and reroll them - this is a new first cast - and don't forget your advantage die if you won one.		Repeat this whole process down the line, highest roll to lowest, until everyone has challenged, answered, or dropped out. At that point, everyone who's still in the conflict goes forward into a next round. Pick up your dice and reroll them - this is a new first cast - and don't forget your advantage die if you won one.

	===How about a quick recap?===		===How about a quick recap?===

Skalchemist: /* Fatal consequences */ color

2007-03-05T23:06:25Z

Fatal consequences: color

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	* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.		* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.
	* Any consequence specified in the challenge itself (i.e. "I chop your head off") is at most a suggestion of what the actual consequence of the challenge will be, and is in no way binding on the person receiving the challenge ("You cut my neck, but my head is still on my body").		* Any consequence specified in the challenge itself (i.e. "I chop your head off") is at most a suggestion of what the actual consequence of the challenge will be, and is in no way binding on the person receiving the challenge ("You cut my neck, but my head is still on my body").
	* The only real difference between giving and doubling is that with giving there is "only" the narrative outcome of the challenge as interpreted by the receiving player ("Yep, I'm stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot") but with doubling there is the narrative outcome ("Yep, I"m stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot...") and also persistent and binding (mechanical or otherwise) consequence ("...and I've lost a die size in Art and can't use my 'Siren's Voice' mastery for the rest of the chapter").		* The only real difference between giving and doubling is that with giving there is "only" the narrative outcome of the challenge as interpreted by the receiving player ("Yep, I'm stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot") but with doubling there is the narrative outcome ("Yep, I"m stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot...") and also persistent and binding (mechanical or otherwise) consequence ("...and I've lost a die size in Art and can't use my 'Siren's Voice' mastery for the rest of the chapter").</font>

	'''Vincent:''' Exactly!]</font>		<font color="blue">'''Vincent:''' Exactly!]</font>

	===Negotiating consequences===		===Negotiating consequences===

Skalchemist: /* Fatal consequences */ color

2007-03-05T23:05:54Z

Fatal consequences: color

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	But maybe look at it this way instead. We know what the baseline for consequences is - exhaustion or injury. If you make your challenge be something whose natural consequences would exceed exhaustion or injury, you should be prepared to scale back to exhaustion or injury afterward. It's not like I cheated you out of me being stomped to paste by your war elephant - we both knew when you made that challenge that it probably wouldn't entirely come true.		But maybe look at it this way instead. We know what the baseline for consequences is - exhaustion or injury. If you make your challenge be something whose natural consequences would exceed exhaustion or injury, you should be prepared to scale back to exhaustion or injury afterward. It's not like I cheated you out of me being stomped to paste by your war elephant - we both knew when you made that challenge that it probably wouldn't entirely come true.

	<font color="blue">[Vincent essentially expanded this section to cover all consequences stated in a challenge, not just fatal ones, which culminated in this conversation between Hans and he:		<font color="blue">[Vincent essentially expanded this section to cover all consequences stated in a challenge, not just fatal ones, which culminated in this conversation between Hans and he:</font>

	'''Hans:''' Vincent, I'd like to repeat back to you what I think you have said (here just now and elsewhere), regarding action and consequence in IaWA, to ensure I understand it.		<font color="blue">'''Hans:''' Vincent, I'd like to repeat back to you what I think you have said (here just now and elsewhere), regarding action and consequence in IaWA, to ensure I understand it.
	* "Taking the blow", "totally sucking it up", etc. are all synonyms for "the challenge happens in the fiction as stated". If the challenge is "I stab you in the throat" then taking the blow means saying "Yep, you stab me in the throat". No more, no less.		* "Taking the blow", "totally sucking it up", etc. are all synonyms for "the challenge happens in the fiction as stated". If the challenge is "I stab you in the throat" then taking the blow means saying "Yep, you stab me in the throat". No more, no less.
	* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.		* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.

Skalchemist: /* Fatal consequences */ edited clarifying bit

2007-03-05T23:05:22Z

Fatal consequences: edited clarifying bit

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	<font color="blue">[Vincent essentially expanded this section to cover all consequences stated in a challenge, not just fatal ones, which culminated in this conversation between Hans and he:		<font color="blue">[Vincent essentially expanded this section to cover all consequences stated in a challenge, not just fatal ones, which culminated in this conversation between Hans and he:

	~~<quote>~~Hans: Vincent, I'd like to repeat back to you what I think you have said (here just now and elsewhere), regarding action and consequence in IaWA, to ensure I understand it.		'''Hans:''' Vincent, I'd like to repeat back to you what I think you have said (here just now and elsewhere), regarding action and consequence in IaWA, to ensure I understand it.
	* "Taking the blow", "totally sucking it up", etc. are all synonyms for "the challenge happens in the fiction as stated". If the challenge is "I stab you in the throat" then taking the blow means saying "Yep, you stab me in the throat". No more, no less.		* "Taking the blow", "totally sucking it up", etc. are all synonyms for "the challenge happens in the fiction as stated". If the challenge is "I stab you in the throat" then taking the blow means saying "Yep, you stab me in the throat". No more, no less.
	* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.		* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.
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	* The only real difference between giving and doubling is that with giving there is "only" the narrative outcome of the challenge as interpreted by the receiving player ("Yep, I'm stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot") but with doubling there is the narrative outcome ("Yep, I"m stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot...") and also persistent and binding (mechanical or otherwise) consequence ("...and I've lost a die size in Art and can't use my 'Siren's Voice' mastery for the rest of the chapter").		* The only real difference between giving and doubling is that with giving there is "only" the narrative outcome of the challenge as interpreted by the receiving player ("Yep, I'm stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot") but with doubling there is the narrative outcome ("Yep, I"m stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot...") and also persistent and binding (mechanical or otherwise) consequence ("...and I've lost a die size in Art and can't use my 'Siren's Voice' mastery for the rest of the chapter").

	~~Vincet~~: Exactly!</~~quote~~>		'''Vincent:''' Exactly!]</font>

	===Negotiating consequences===		===Negotiating consequences===

Skalchemist: /* Fatal consequences */ added a clarifying bit

2007-03-05T23:04:27Z

Fatal consequences: added a clarifying bit

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	If you like, you can read "take the blow" to mean "take the blow unless it's fatal, in which case you get to somehow block or dodge the fatal part, unless your dice are already low."		If you like, you can read "take the blow" to mean "take the blow unless it's fatal, in which case you get to somehow block or dodge the fatal part, unless your dice are already low."

	But maybe look at it this way instead. We know what the baseline for consequences is - exhaustion or injury. If you make your challenge be something whose natural consequences would exceed exhaustion or injury, you should be prepared to scale back to exhaustion or injury afterward. It's not like I cheated you out of me being stomped to paste by your war elephant - we both knew when you made that challenge that it probably wouldn't entirely come true.		But maybe look at it this way instead. We know what the baseline for consequences is - exhaustion or injury. If you make your challenge be something whose natural consequences would exceed exhaustion or injury, you should be prepared to scale back to exhaustion or injury afterward. It's not like I cheated you out of me being stomped to paste by your war elephant - we both knew when you made that challenge that it probably wouldn't entirely come true.

			<font color="blue">[Vincent essentially expanded this section to cover all consequences stated in a challenge, not just fatal ones, which culminated in this conversation between Hans and he:

			<quote>Hans: Vincent, I'd like to repeat back to you what I think you have said (here just now and elsewhere), regarding action and consequence in IaWA, to ensure I understand it.
			* "Taking the blow", "totally sucking it up", etc. are all synonyms for "the challenge happens in the fiction as stated". If the challenge is "I stab you in the throat" then taking the blow means saying "Yep, you stab me in the throat". No more, no less.
			* As the challenge happens as stated both with giving and doubling, there is no difference between the two with respect to the challenge itself.
			* Any consequence specified in the challenge itself (i.e. "I chop your head off") is at most a suggestion of what the actual consequence of the challenge will be, and is in no way binding on the person receiving the challenge ("You cut my neck, but my head is still on my body").
			* The only real difference between giving and doubling is that with giving there is "only" the narrative outcome of the challenge as interpreted by the receiving player ("Yep, I'm stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot") but with doubling there is the narrative outcome ("Yep, I"m stabbed in the throat, that hurt a lot...") and also persistent and binding (mechanical or otherwise) consequence ("...and I've lost a die size in Art and can't use my 'Siren's Voice' mastery for the rest of the chapter").

			Vincet: Exactly!</quote>

	===Negotiating consequences===		===Negotiating consequences===

Skalchemist: /* What do we do with our dice after we've rolled them? */ added bit about challenge consequences

2007-03-05T23:00:13Z

What do we do with our dice after we've rolled them?: added bit about challenge consequences

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	If you're the challenger, say what your character does. The stronger the better - and not just because stronger challenges are more fun. A stronger challenge puts you in a stronger bargaining position later on. Say what your character does, what she accomplishes, not just how she intends to start to go about it. "I stab you in the throat," not "I swing my sword at you."		If you're the challenger, say what your character does. The stronger the better - and not just because stronger challenges are more fun. A stronger challenge puts you in a stronger bargaining position later on. Say what your character does, what she accomplishes, not just how she intends to start to go about it. "I stab you in the throat," not "I swing my sword at you."
	If you're the answerer, reroll your dice. Again as always, only the high die matters (unless there's a tie).		If you're the answerer, reroll your dice. Again as always, only the high die matters (unless there's a tie).

			<font color="blue">[Vincent has stated on anyway that any consequences stated in the challenge are essentially suggestions for final consquences, and are not binding.]</font>

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