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 Etheric: I should make a textfile for my character sheet now that the wiki is down.<br>
 Etheric: I need to figure out how many character points I have left, though.  And I'm a bit uncertain what Gifts I ended up adding when I made Eve.  RN and I discussed a few possibilities.<br>
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 BethE: (Do I want to know what that means?  <g>)<br>
 Knockwood: (Sorry, Could Not Resist (that goofy setup))

74.139.220.46 at 22:38, 7 October 2007

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Etheric: I should make a textfile for my character sheet now that the wiki is down. 
Etheric: I need to figure out how many character points I have left, though. And I'm a bit uncertain what Gifts I ended up adding when I made Eve. RN and I discussed a few possibilities. 
Random_Nerd: Yeah, and I don't believe you'd made up your mind when last we spoke on the matter. 
Knockwood: well, we're in chapter 9, so we each got 8 so far, minus any adds you've already done 
Etheric: Hmm, that many? 
Etheric: I think I have enough for Aspect 2 then, unless I forgot a Gift. 
Etheric: Er, Aspect 1. 
Knockwood: I've got 6 points I'm still debating what to do with 
Etheric: Momentarily forgot that my Aspect started at zero. 
Etheric: What I would do, Knock, is use 4 of those to raise each of your Domains by 1, then pick a nifty Gift or two. 
Random_Nerd: True, you seem to have issues with low Domain a fair amount. 
BethE: I know I bought the Noble Tracker gift. And I was thinking of raising Spirit or Realm. 
Etheric: Either that, or buy your Realm up to 2 so you can hear the Realm's Heart. 
Knockwood: that and I use my secondary more than my primary 
Knockwood: though I was thinking of cranking my aspect and/or maybe getting straight up attack gifts 
Etheric: Oh, hmm. 
Etheric: RN, I didn't think of this. Should I take Eve's differing take on Hope as a secondary domain? 
BethE: How much was your lightsaber going to be, or is that for later, Knock? 
Knockwood: haven't really hashed it out yet 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. I don't really see them as being different enough to lead to different sorts of miracles being allowable. 
Random_Nerd: Do you disagree? 
Etheric: Not really, I ust wanted to check. 
Etheric: Well, they do allow slightly different kinds of miracles, but both are based on "hope." 
Random_Nerd: I don't see the degree of difference as being sufficiently great as to need mechanical representation. 
BethE: (Did those who are not RN or sharing his brain at the time hear about the differences between the two Hope-perspectives?) 
Etheric: I don't recall, honestly. 
Etheric: Want me to go over them? 
BethE: Yes, please. 
Etheric: Sorry. 
Etheric: Anyway, Eve's take on Hope is that a Hope is basically the purpose a thing is geared towards, either by design or by nature. 
Random_Nerd: Very Aristotelian. 
Etheric: Carrie's take on Hope is that a Hope is a transformative emotion that directs a person toward a certain aspect of their potential. 
Etheric: Basically clarifying that part of the potential. 
BethE: Interesting. *thinks* 
Etheric: And making it easier to realize. 
BethE: So, either of them Diving the same person could get different answers? 
Etheric: Eve's outlook is based on Fate, Carrie's on Free Will. 
Etheric: Hmm. 
Knockwood: so, Eve could do a LC Hope and create a serial killer? 
Etheric: I'm not sure, Knock, It depends on whether RN thinkks that's stretching the boundaries of Hope too much. 
Knockwood: actually, wait, so could Carrie... 
Etheric: Probably. 
Random_Nerd: Either could, really. 
Random_Nerd: They'd just do it differently. 
Etheric: Though, Carrie's Hope is transformative and uplifting, so it would be a different kind of serial killer than what Eve would make. 
Etheric: It's meant as the same Estate, just radically different takes on it. 
Etheric: Hmm. 
BethE: Carrie's could be a serial killer who believes that he/she is rescueing the victims from worse things or maybe one of those nurse-Angel of Deaths. 
Etheric: Do you guys want to know the Eve-origin reason or should I let it come out in play? 
Knockwood: ah, go ahead and tell us. :) 
BethE: *gets popcorn* 
BethE: I can have Theresa be clueless in character anyhow. <g> 
Etheric: After meditating on that vision of hers all night, Carrie asked Kudzu to help her undertand the Dark without losing who she was. 
Etheric: Kudzu obliged. 
Etheric: So you get, roughly, a second personality, complete with a second form. 
Etheric: Perfect Timing is going to ensure that no one is watching when they switch back and forth. 
Etheric: That's mainly because I haven't decided on a visual. 
BethE: Does one hear the other's thoughts/actions/etc? 
Etheric: They aren't really there when the other is active, but they can remember everything the other did, in a dreamlike way. 
Knockwood: so, is Carrie going to change her last name to Jekyll? :D 
Etheric: No. 
BethE: How'd Carrie's folks take it and does it interfer any with the Light Touch Hope has with them? 
Etheric: For now, Eve has Light Touch too. And for that reason, she's been careful not to contact the Anchors while she's Eve. 
Etheric: Eventually I plan on working out a second set of Handicaps for Eve beyond the differing Affiliation, but that's not finalized yet. 
BethE: How much does Eve think Fate controls lives or events? 
Etheric: To Eve, fate is individual. It is ones deeper nature manifesting itself. Kudzu forbids the imprisonment of this deeper nature (Code of the Wild via Cold Imperator Property.) 
Etheric: However, humanity's deeper ature is destructive, witness wars, famine, genocide. 
Etheric: Therefore, the answer is to persuade humanity to destroy itself. 
Etheric: It's not an appealing logic but it is coherent. 
BethE: (RN - what was William 
Etheric: It also lacks Carrie's belief in unlimited potential. 
Random_Nerd: (Okay, now, looks pretty clear that we won't have Laz. You guys prefer to start now, or cancel, or what?) 
BethE: 's response mentally to the dual-Hopes for the heraldry?) 
Random_Nerd: ("Huh. That's a weird one. Must ponder precedents.") 
Knockwood: what about Sara? 
BethE: Sara's still out trying to get work schedule and sleep aligned so that she's awake past 8:30pm. 
Etheric: Hate to say it, but maybe we should cancel tonight. 
Random_Nerd: She won't be here for at least a couple weeks, she's told me. 
BethE: I would accept a cancel but have a question for the group first. 
Random_Nerd: Yes? 
Knockwood: 42. 
BethE: What sort of things could we (as players or we as the royalRN, either way) do to help keep sessions/scenes moving? 
Random_Nerd: Come up with agendas and take steps to implement them. 
BethE: As I've noticed that I can have a tendency to bog down in the minor details. 
Knockwood: we all do. Demonboxing. 
Random_Nerd: Yeah. Part of that is that we don't seem to have a player/character of the more impulsive type here. 
Etheric: I think on top of that, we need the GMing to be a little more proactive. If things are stuck, prod things along a bit. We won't object. 
* Etheric blinks. 
Etheric: Dante isn't? 
Random_Nerd: Mmm? 
Random_Nerd: Not for these purposes. 
Etheric: Fair enough. 
Knockwood: there's also the problem in that we're not entirely sure what we can do 
Random_Nerd: He is in terms of big-picture planning, but less so for demonboxing. 
Random_Nerd: How so, Knock? 
BethE: Do we need Noble boot-camp? 
Random_Nerd: And what sort of thing would you suggest in terms of prodding, Etheric? 
Random_Nerd: Given that it's a tight balance between prodding and railroading, and the midpoint differs from group to group. 
Etheric: It's true that Carrie/Eve seems to be the one who forgets debating and actually does stuff. And I generally only do that when I get impatient with something that's already stretched out too long. 
Knockwood: fr'ex: the big attack on the Ex last time. We wasted a big chunk of the session firing off one attack 
Etheric: Well, if we're sdebating in circles, have something happen. 
Etheric: Doesn't matter what, as long as it changed the situation. 
Etheric: It's unrelastic to think that the owrld waits around while Nobles argue. Even given the existence of Perfect Timing. 
Knockwood: careful, he could have two Excrucians burst through the door with abhorrent guns... 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. What sort of thing would help with you knowing what you can do? 
Etheric: I trust RN to keep the challenges manageable. 
Knockwood: Why, just let us do anything! :D 
* Etheric now envisions the Power of Munchkins with Secondary Domain 5 in Everything But The Kitchen Sink. 
Knockwood: what's his Aspect, Avogadro's number? :) 
Random_Nerd: Graham's Number. 
BethE: What if we had a session that was everyone throwing ideas/situations at Player A and they have to survive/fix it with their character. Then switch. 
Etheric: Aspect 2, Legendary. But he has a focus that gives him Aspect 7. And several backups if he loses that one. 
Etheric: Also, he has unlimited miracle points. 
Etheric: <.< 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. When you talk about not knowing what you can do, is it a matter of how the rules work? Or of picking an option from the many available ones? 
Random_Nerd: Or something else? 
BethE: I know one of my problems is that I don't think big/Noble enough. 
BethE: And I sometimes have trouble with Auctoritas. 
Knockwood: well, Theresa's is easy... it's tangible, therefore simple: LC=one plant or plant-derived thing 
Knockwood: mine, not so much. 
Etheric: I think if you're having trouble knowing what Courage can do, you should pin it down with RN. 
Etheric: I did that for Hope with Carrie and later with Eve, and it really helped. 
Knockwood: actually, that one was partially because we didn't know we could 'crank' a miracle and fire it off at a higher level 
BethE: What, in the 'helping each other' way? 
Knockwood: right 
Random_Nerd: Well, one thing that could help would be to read through the relevant chapters again, both the straight mechanical ones and the GM adjugating advice ones. 
Random_Nerd: I find that doing that every few months helps me. 
Knockwood: BTW, did you see my post in (Link: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=339740)http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=339740 ? 
Random_Nerd: Ah, no, I'd not seen that. 
Random_Nerd: Saw the thread earlier, but not with that post in it. 
BethE: *reads, gets distracted by cutecatavatar, reads* 
Knockwood: you're actually the first one to comment on the kitty-punk... 
BethE: I am easily distracted by cute. <G> 
BethE: And very good post, Knock! That's a really good job at decribing it. 
BethE: describing even 
Knockwood: well, I had a little help. :) 
BethE: Hmm...your post makes me wonder if I should be doing more with the Elemental part of Theresa. I don't use it a whole lot. 
Random_Nerd: It's a handy Gift, especially if you have Durant to go with it, which you do. 
Etheric: If we're done with Beth's question, I'm gone for the night. Thanks all. 
Knockwood: oyasumi-nasai 
BethE: Night, Etheric! *HUG* 
Random_Nerd: Okay. See you next week. 
*** Etheric has signed off IRC (Disintegrated: Destiny is choice.). 
BethE: I think about the only thing I've really done with the Elemental is vine arms and the dead stick arm after Monty. 
Random_Nerd: You have anything else, Knock? 
Knockwood: of course, I'm weird in that I'm not sure about what I write unless someone comments on it 
Knockwood: hey, I was trying to think up an attack gift... 
Knockwood: Create-Fire is blatantly obvious, though I was considering something more unique. 
Random_Nerd: So you decided you didn't want an aspect-based martial art? 
Knockwood: And I suspect a lightsaber would have a cost on par with Marsiglio's claw, which was expensive IIRC 
Knockwood: RN: how much of a problem would having to physically touch the bad guy be? 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. 
Random_Nerd: Depends on the situation, and how quickly they realize the limitation. 
Random_Nerd: It'd probably be most problematic when facing smart enemies with flexible combat options. 
Knockwood: just prepping for when you put us up against the Excrucian Power of Sludge. :) 
Random_Nerd: Which is to say, either Nobles, or Excrucians with funky gifts like WBH. 
BethE: How much of an unusual gift was that Winds gift the Ex had in Mexico? 
Random_Nerd: That was a pretty common Warmain Gift. 
Random_Nerd: Probably one of the top ten most common warmain tricks. 
Knockwood: Oh.. I was thinking of getting that Rune of Runaway as a set trick... 
Knockwood: basically, trace it in the air or the ground, and mortals go bye-bye 
Random_Nerd: Rune of Runaway? 
Knockwood: I had it in my Domain Miracles list 
BethE: (I dislike the Winds. They hit _hard_.) 
Random_Nerd: Oh, let me see. 
Knockwood: Dest of Courage, effect is: guy runs away 
Random_Nerd: Ah, that would probably make a handy Gift. 
Knockwood: Beth: well, you saw the defense I thought up, right? 
Random_Nerd: Good for getting humans away, and subtle enough not to cause DA. 
Random_Nerd: Let's see. Lesser Destruction, Simple Miracle, Local Things Only, One Trick, Uncommon? 
BethE: Knock - i don't think so? 
Knockwood: Well, it effects everyone in the area, selectively, but no Uncommon penalty since it's related to my Domain. 
Random_Nerd: Oh, true. 
Knockwood: can it have the special effect 'remains in effect for as long as the physical rune lasts'? 
Random_Nerd: Well, Local Things is as opposed to Almost Anywhere. 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. 
Random_Nerd: That'd take a Change. 
Random_Nerd: To make something with that kind of lasting effect. 
Knockwood: well, if it's written in, say, dirt... 
Random_Nerd: A miracle is an act. If the act is scaring people, you can do it with a destruction. But if it's making a rune that has certain effects, that'd be a Change, because such a rune can't mundanely exist. 
Knockwood: Beth: OK, let me explain the defense... 
Knockwood: it's kinda the reverse of Brian's movement trick. 
Knockwood: Basically, warp either numbers or space so that the distance between him and, say, us is a lot longer than it 'should' be. 
Random_Nerd: That could work well. 
BethE: SO that his Winds wouldn't reach? 
Random_Nerd: Sort of like the opposite of how a strategist would do it, really. 
Knockwood: Even thought of a cool name: Zeno's Shield 
Knockwood: Beth: yep 
Random_Nerd: Hmm. Anything more to ask or tell me before I head out? 
Knockwood: know of any Gifts opf Spirit? 
Knockwood: and Tpyo's back... 
Random_Nerd: There are no miracles of spirit, so, there aren't gifts that are based on a miracle of spirit. 
Knockwood: thought of that as another possible defense: a Gift of Spirit specifically for defense 
Random_Nerd: There are what the book considers to be "Gifts of Spirit," but those are Gifts based on another miracle thematically attached to Spirit. 
Random_Nerd: Just like, for instance, many Gifts of Aspect are based on Domain miracles. 
Knockwood: was Laz interested in spending the points on a Zeno's Shield? I might do it myself... maybe hook it to an aegis as a focus... 
Random_Nerd: Beats me. 
Knockwood: that's Beth's job. 
Knockwood: :D 
Knockwood: (SCNR) 
BethE: (Do I want to know what that means? <g>) 
Knockwood: (Sorry, Could Not Resist (that goofy setup))

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