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174.140.79.182: recovery balance with verve

2015-08-31T08:08:04Z

recovery balance with verve

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	Verve does not recover between sessions because some powers are used during down time and would be unbalanced if you got to keep using them during every "scene" of down time. - BunniRabbi		Verve does not recover between sessions because some powers are used during down time and would be unbalanced if you got to keep using them during every "scene" of down time. - BunniRabbi

			A lot of edits seem to be made with the idea in mind of allowing more verve recovery. I would ask players to try running games more often if they think this is a good idea. The entire purpose of introducing a fuel stat is to limit the use of powers and ad an element of risk management. If players want that aspect removed, it might be better to simply let more of the powers operate without verve.

174.140.79.182: 2nd edition update, removed ref to exponential exp costs

2015-08-31T07:38:49Z

2nd edition update, removed ref to exponential exp costs

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	Verve does not recover between sessions because some powers are used during down time and would be unbalanced if you got to keep using them during every "scene" of down time. - BunniRabbi		Verve does not recover between sessions because some powers are used during down time and would be unbalanced if you got to keep using them during every "scene" of down time. - BunniRabbi
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	1/5/14 - A previous edit contained additional bonuses to health and exp granted per power level. Health limits are useful for storytellers so that action level doesn't eclipse drama level (as per the notes given in the Storytelling section of Exalted), so this was removed.

	Likewise, adding exp at higher levels is contradictory to having the exp costs increase fore each level of the power level stat. Why make it cost more exp and make it easier to get exp? Similarly, having the requirement that the character defeat other superhumans is a gamist concept and doesn't fit in narrativist games. A character should never be required to enguage in conflict to progress.

	~~That being said, nothing says a group could not play More Than Human as a gamist game, but that would be more appropriate as a set of optional rules.~~

	~~6/26/14 - Thinking more about that optional set of gamist rules, a few points come to mind:~~
	1) It might be useful to note in the individual power entries which powers are particularly suited to gamist play, as in a gamist game an ST may wish to make some kind of house rule to make access to these powers easier, and STs in particularly non-gamist games may wish to do the opposite.
	2) One problem that seems likely to arise is characters getting excessively spaced out from one another, such that some players without movement-oriented are consistently getting left out of scenes. A gamist ruleset should probably include some allowance to make sure a character either has movement powers or has easier access to vehicles.

98.219.211.75: thoughts on a gamist ruleset

2014-06-26T07:21:00Z

thoughts on a gamist ruleset

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	That being said, nothing says a group could not play More Than Human as a gamist game, but that would be more appropriate as a set of optional rules.		That being said, nothing says a group could not play More Than Human as a gamist game, but that would be more appropriate as a set of optional rules.

			6/26/14 - Thinking more about that optional set of gamist rules, a few points come to mind:
			1) It might be useful to note in the individual power entries which powers are particularly suited to gamist play, as in a gamist game an ST may wish to make some kind of house rule to make access to these powers easier, and STs in particularly non-gamist games may wish to do the opposite.
			2) One problem that seems likely to arise is characters getting excessively spaced out from one another, such that some players without movement-oriented are consistently getting left out of scenes. A gamist ruleset should probably include some allowance to make sure a character either has movement powers or has easier access to vehicles.

98.219.211.75 at 19:09, 5 January 2014

2014-01-05T19:09:40Z

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	See? so it's actually a better word for the effect. I know it doesn't really matter, But I'd like it :P [[Special:Contributions/71.176.131.108\|71.176.131.108]] 16:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)		See? so it's actually a better word for the effect. I know it doesn't really matter, But I'd like it :P [[Special:Contributions/71.176.131.108\|71.176.131.108]] 16:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
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			The only reason I would avoid Moxie is because it seems to have a very strong association with the noir genre. That's no huge objection. Verve is unknown to most people, so it seems more neutral.
			-BunniRabbi
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			Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory.

			Requesting permission to make Verve more easily renewable and fix the Power Level chart accordingly.
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			Verve does not recover between sessions because some powers are used during down time and would be unbalanced if you got to keep using them during every "scene" of down time. - BunniRabbi
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	~~Why~~ doesn't ~~Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If~~ the ~~villains we fight get to have full Verve~~, so ~~should we~~, ~~or else a lot~~ of ~~powers become absolute garbage~~ and the ~~Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory~~.		1/5/14 - A previous edit contained additional bonuses to health and exp granted per power level. Health limits are useful for storytellers so that action level doesn't eclipse drama level (as per the notes given in the Storytelling section of Exalted), so this was removed.

			Likewise, adding exp at higher levels is contradictory to having the exp costs increase fore each level of the power level stat. Why make it cost more exp and make it easier to get exp? Similarly, having the requirement that the character defeat other superhumans is a gamist concept and doesn't fit in narrativist games. A character should never be required to enguage in conflict to progress.

	~~Requesting permission to make Verve~~ more ~~easily renewable and fix the Power Level chart accordingly~~.		That being said, nothing says a group could not play More Than Human as a gamist game, but that would be more appropriate as a set of optional rules.

173.176.19.154 at 20:21, 3 January 2014

2014-01-03T20:21:44Z

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	Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory.		Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory.

	Requesting permission to make Verve more easily renewable and fix the Power Level chart accordingly.		Requesting permission to make Verve more easily renewable and fix the Power Level chart accordingly.

173.176.19.154 at 20:21, 3 January 2014

2014-01-03T20:21:04Z

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	Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory. Requesting permission to fix the ~~Verve curve~~.		Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory.
			Requesting permission to make Verve more easily renewable and fix the Power Level chart accordingly.

173.176.19.154 at 20:19, 3 January 2014

2014-01-03T20:19:38Z

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	See? so it's actually a better word for the effect. I know it doesn't really matter, But I'd like it :P [[Special:Contributions/71.176.131.108\|71.176.131.108]] 16:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)		See? so it's actually a better word for the effect. I know it doesn't really matter, But I'd like it :P [[Special:Contributions/71.176.131.108\|71.176.131.108]] 16:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)




			Why doesn't Verve refill between sessions? That's what my ST does and it works great! If the villains we fight get to have full Verve, so should we, or else a lot of powers become absolute garbage and the Decreased Verve Cost extra becomes mandatory. Requesting permission to fix the Verve curve.

71.176.131.108: Created page with 'If I did all the work for it, could we change the word "Verve", to "Moxie" (also spelt Moxy)? you'll probably ask why, and the reason is because it sounds like something that wou…'

2011-06-03T16:36:04Z

Created page with 'If I did all the work for it, could we change the word "Verve", to "Moxie" (also spelt Moxy)? you'll probably ask why, and the reason is because it sounds like something that wou…'

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If I did all the work for it, could we change the word "Verve", to "Moxie" (also spelt Moxy)? you'll probably ask why, and the reason is because it sounds like something that would be superhero related, is a totally awesome word, means Exactly what Verve is described as, and just sounds awesome.

Verve's Definition (Taken from Wiktionary):
#Excitement of imagination such as animates a poet, artist, or musician, in composing or performing
#artistic energy and enthusiasm
#vigour, vitality and liveliness
#rapture, enthusiasm
#spirit, energy

Moxie's Deinition (Taken from Wiktionary):
#backbone, determination and fortitude
#initiative or skill

See? so it's actually a better word for the effect. I know it doesn't really matter, But I'd like it :P [[Special:Contributions/71.176.131.108|71.176.131.108]] 16:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)