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==Bill== I agree with your assessment of Zal's actions in the "election" (stretching that word a bit). The evil-ness of it is probably debatable, but I don't think it's in the Neutral column. I say it's debatable because I don't know how much personal power he could gain from this. So what if the guy in power is friendly toward him? We want them ALL to be friendly toward us as a group, don't we? His motivations could be fairly non-harmful, even if his methods are seriously dirty. So, we all talked about him turning into a demon. What's this mean? Personally, I think how this happens is extremely complicated. He's gone through no transition whatsoever, and suddenly he's no longer human? At the very least, he should have lost his body along the way. But, it's complicated, and I don't know how many of the details Kevin's worked out yet. Based on his tendancy to commit, then alter as he goes, I'm guessing it's as far as "He's a demon!" right now. But going from being a creature with a dual spirit (as D&D defines mortals, humanoids have both an eternal soul and a "body"-like spirit that are separate, which is how it's possible to resurrect a humanoid) to being a creature who IS a spirit (no dual nature - just a spirit that can come in the form of a body) is just not something that normally is EVER possible. Kyuad becoming undead, as a point of contrast, is the normal (but infortunate) result of death for many creatures. As a suggestion, perhaps the rules on how a D&D monk becomes an outsider at later levels should be used as a guidline. It's more a form of ascention than a form of complete transformation, and that would make him not a demon, but an outsider that is native to Aryth (this plane) and most similar to demons. Anyway, if things continue along the path to become more of a demon, it's entirely likely that Zal'Kazzir will become a creature with the Evil subtype, which would require that his alignment be evil. It's not like with undead or animals, which are most commonly (but not necessarily) found in their natural state with evil or neutral alignments, respectively. A creature with the Evil subtype MUST be evil - it's inherant. What worries me is that Adam is going to roleplay his alignment, and according to what we've seen, he's really good at that. So it's not like he's going to start doing good things in an effort to make ammends. I've said it before and I'll say it again: an Evil character has no business being a PC in a game like this where we're trying to be heroes. I think that if Zal becomes Evil, then he becomes an NPC under Kevin's control and Adam makes a new character. This is the reason that my betrayer from the previous Midnight campaign was no longer under my control after I actually betrayed them, and I think we should follow prescident here. -Bill
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