Editing Chuubo 2-1 (section)

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* Natalia is now known as Angelo<br>
<Hisui> (There's a chance I won't be here next week, but I can't know for certain)<br>
* Hisui is now known as Verithe<br>
* Dulcinea is now known as Knockwood<br>
<Knockwood> It's a little bit awkward to play through becoming Friendless...<br>
<Angelo> is awkward too being suspicious<br>
<@Random_Nerd> I do think that the "play a few bits from the past lives of the PC" adds some interesting backstory.<br>
* Rinley is now known as BethE<br>
<@Random_Nerd> What do you guys think of your new characters?<br>
<Knockwood> Going to be a little tricky differentiating Dulcinea from Leonardo, but then again they have different abilities and outlooks<br>
<Angelo> I like Natalia, is really different than Soun<br>
<Knockwood> D observes nature while L tries to screw with it<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Really, even the magic version of the Glass Leonardo is more scientific.<br>
<BethE> Rinley has a different mindset than Lili, but I think the two of them would have been good friends.<br>
<Verithe> I am enjoying Hisui. I'm a bit confused on some of the character building for her, but I think I have most of it.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Oh?  Anything specific?<br>
<Verithe> Well, for one thing... is the old stuff still in the nine characters update?<br>
<Verithe> Because the stuff in 108-311 us a but more clunky than what's in 736-778<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
<Verithe> But it seems like they're both new stuff.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> According to the email, yeah.<br>
<Verithe> It could be that I was just having trouble with reading it on the computer, too.<br>
<Verithe> Would it be alright if I switched the Watanabe skill Conversationalist to Researcher?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.  Fine by me.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Heh.  I'd forgotten that the fox-girl version of the Other One had art of Temujia or whoever from Chibi Ex.<br>
<Verithe> Haha, yeah. :D<br>
<Verithe> Watanabe stuff starts on... 230, I think.<br>
<Verithe> For Bonds I have "I always have a few Watanabe candies on hand" (one of the suggested ones) and "Creative" (for my personal-virtue bond)<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Which bond did you want to...<br>
<@Random_Nerd> ...<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> And affliction?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Did you want one?<br>
<Verithe> "If I'm alone and lost, I'll always find a friend."<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
<Verithe> And from what I read, there should be a second Glass-shard power Affliction, yes?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> That one could be interesting in play.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Let me see...<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Oh, the special talent?<br>
<Verithe> Yes.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Oh, yes, there's the special talent ''and'' the personal affliction.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> What were you thinking for those?<br>
<BethE> Night, guys!  *HUGS*<br>
<Verithe> I was thinking "The candies I make change people" but with more of an intent to change their attitude, but permitting more.<br>
<Knockwood> g'night Beth<br>
<Verithe> Night, Beth!<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
<Angelo> night BEth!<br>
* BethE Quit (Disintegrated: All shall love me and despair?)<br>
<@Random_Nerd> That works.<br>
<Verithe> But it's a strange thing for a Watanabe and Hisui wouldn't have figured it out just yet.<br>
<Verithe> Okay<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Really, wouldn't that imply that she's making the candies incorrectly?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Leaving just a ''bit'' too much psychoactive stuff in there?<br>
<Knockwood> or is everyone else making them wrong? :p<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Heh.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> But, at least, that she's tinkering with the recipe.<br>
<Verithe> Could be, yeah<br>
<Verithe> She does want to give the Watanabe shrine a fresh image, so she could be trying out new things with the recipe.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> That would fit.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> So, for the special ability, which option were you thinking? Level 4s kill, magic, or a Superior Skill?<br>
<Knockwood> (Where the heck are Nightmares' Angel's bonds?)<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Do you have them?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> You're an Imperator.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Don't you have the Nightmare Map instead?<br>
<Knockwood> ah, no wonder I can't find them<br>
<Verithe> Special ability was somewhere I got stuck. What page was that?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Besides, you're friendless!<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Starts on 270.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Just thinking that pre-Chuubo, I would not have thought that a mixed Noble and Imperator party would be viable, but it totally is.<br>
<Angelo> but powers levels her are not the one in nobilis<br>
<@Random_Nerd> True...<br>
<Angelo> also scenes and stuff<br>
<@Random_Nerd> But I don't think that there's a reason why it would work at 9 points but utterly break down at 25.<br>
<Verithe> 270 is for "the Other One" characters. Does that still apply?<br>
<Knockwood> Sometimes I wonder if this is a little too demanding of the player, tho.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Ah.<br>
<Knockwood> Then again that assumes the typical player just wants to whack orcs...<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> You're right.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> I was conflating that with the Shrine Maiden part.<br>
<Verithe> It's a little confusing with the pdf layout.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Oh, and what is your bonus XP condition?<br>
<Verithe> Worry/Fear<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Works the same as Luthien's?<br>
<Verithe> Should, yeah<br>
<Knockwood> well, see you next week<br>
<Verithe> Take care, Knock<br>
<Angelo> night Knock<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Okay.  Anything else?<br>
* Knockwood Quits<br>
* Angelo shake head<br>
<Angelo> wait, Looking at Nat in the last update.. all seem the same as the previous one .. .what I'm missing?<br>
<Verithe> For quests, would "Make Candy" for the "do your thing" quest work? And would it be a pastoral quest?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Not all characters got changed.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> That makes sense, V.<br>
<Angelo> ah!<br>
<@Random_Nerd> The most focus was on the make-your-own, and on those without story arcs.<br>
<Verithe> I didn't think I had do anything special to add to the "Meet the Other PC's" or "A Far and Sunless Land" quests, is that right?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> I... don't ''think'' so?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> I think the other options aren't written yet.<br>
<Verithe> There's mention of grabbing other quests if two many characters already share those two, but I think I've got a monopoly on "A Far and Sunless Land" at least.<br>
<Verithe> *too<br>
<@Random_Nerd> I think we already have you established as knowing the other PCs.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> So do you have any thoughts on a potential replacement for that?<br>
<Angelo> nod nod Nat a least<br>
<@Random_Nerd> What does Hisui wnat to do?<br>
<Verithe> She wants to work for her family shrine and to give it a fresh public image.<br>
<Angelo> I go, kids to awake and get ready to shool. See you in a week. in the mean time take care! :-)<br>
<Verithe> Take care, Angelo!<br>
<@Random_Nerd> See you next week, Angelo.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Hmm.  Want to make a "Give the Shrine a new public image" a quest?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> You could base it on one of the Dream Witch's quests that was somewhat similar.<br>
<Verithe> Which one?<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Uh, let me find it again.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Random thought as I leaf through on the way...<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Does it strike anyone else as interesting to have Entropy II as a Lightlord?<br>
<Verithe> It would make sense, thinking about it. That is interesting.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> And in this version he explicitly rather than just implicitly is one.<br>
<Verithe> Huh.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Ah, and I was wrong.  While the ''concept'' of this Dream Witch quest relates to renovating an old manor to get the money to help the Archive, the focus of it is on her getting help from other people, and revealing her weirdness to them in doing so.<br>
<Verithe> Ah.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> So it wouldn't be a useful model.<br>
<Verithe> Oh well.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Unless you want to secretly be kinda-sorta an Excrucian.<br>
<Verithe> The glass-shard provides that sort of possibility, but I think I'm undecided on that end.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Fair enough.<br>
<Verithe> Maybe I'll decide after Hisui dies, since that's a thing she has to do.<br>
<@Random_Nerd> If you ''want'' to secretly be a weird monster, tell me, and we can work with that.<br>
<Verithe> Alright<br>
<@Random_Nerd> Okay, see you next week?<br>
<Verithe> If I'm not working on moving again. <br>
<@Random_Nerd> (Random thought: Miriame Mesmer is more like the Apocynum from Fable of the Swan than the Chuubo version of Apocynum is in many ways.)<br>
<Verithe> Take care!<br>