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| * Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3] | | * Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3] |
| * Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3] | | * Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3] |
− | * Bond: I love my dear Theresa as if she was his mum [2] | + | * Bond: I love and care Gnomely [2] |
− | * Bond: I love and care Gnomely [1] | + | * Bond: I hate Dollphaniel [1] |
| * Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1] | | * Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1] |
| * Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1] | | * Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1] |
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| * Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2] | | * Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2] |
| ** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise. | | ** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise. |
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− | -- chat excerpt 2011-09-09 --<br>
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− | <Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Let me see.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Heh.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?<br>
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− | <Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?<br>
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− | <Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?<br>
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− | <Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things<br>
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− | <Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes<br>
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− | <Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?<br>
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− | <Angelo> yes Verithe<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?<br>
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− | <Angelo> ok I change the definition<br>
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− | <Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
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− | <Angelo> :-)<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.<br>
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− | <Angelo> Super!<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.<br>
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− | <Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG<br>
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− | <Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?<br>
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− | <Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?<br>
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− | <Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Hmm. You might want to devote a quality to that.<br>
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− | <Angelo> yes sound right<br>
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− | <Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-<br>
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− | <Angelo> would work?<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"<br>
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− | <Angelo> cool!<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.<br>
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− | <Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?<br>
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− | <Angelo> nope :-)
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| ===About Data=== | | ===About Data=== |