Clues/Hints from Against The Giants

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Basic Mission[edit]

The plans were wide sweeping. Hill giants taking over Perrenland, forcing there way down through the Valley of Highfolk to Veluna and Furyondy. At the same time, Frost Giant would attack out of the Girff mountains to the east, and roll over Tenh of the Theocracy of the Pale, and then the County of Urnst. There is metnion of a third arm of attack, but nothing certain.

A map is given of the location of the Glacial headquarters of the Forst Giant Jarl Mortsdron. A huge magic chain is also found, that if looped into a figure eight, will transport up to 16 medium-sized creatures to the forst giants' glacier.

There are orders for Nosnra to report to Mortsdron two weeks after the initial attack...or nine days from now.

Information on Fire Giants[edit]

Themis know this of the Snurre, King of the Fire giants:

An extremely strong giant, a cunning but stupid warrior. Immune to Cold. Rules through strength. Known to be superstitious. His queen, Frumpy, is thought to be the brains. She is thought to be a cleric of of some sort. By all rights, neither would have the intelligence or power to organize these attacks. Snurre is known to have subdued or have a partnership with a huge red wyrm simply known as 'M'. Fire trolls serve him. A portal to the Elemental Plane of Fire exists within his holdfast. He has mountain giant allies, and is frined with their chief in the Drachensrab Mountains, in the Pomarj.

The scrolls say: The scrolls are deciphered.

One Eclavrdra lays out plans for seizing the Central Flanaess. The goal is controling the shores of the Nyr Dyv, and to raise the long-lost Isles of Woe. Part of the plan is to push foward all concquered peoples, or to take them with the advancing giants.

There is mention of a teleport chamber from the Glacier to a point outside of King Snurre's dungeon fortress.

Reading closely, the plans seem to be addressed to Atadiko.

There is mention that the fourth arm should hopefully be moving soon, as Eclavdra hopes to have the Earth Dragon finally on their side.

Contact Other Plane - Fire[edit]

  • 9. What has made the Fire Giant Snurre immune to the powers of cold? (Hoping this is ice-appropriate.)

Tiamat

  • 10. Who is Snurre's greatest foe? (Hoping this is ice-appropriate.)

Surtur

  • 1. What is the true name of Snurre's dragon ally, "M"?

Mallighzarkilitrpoywedry'ich-thoklontal-pi (Mallighzarkilitrpoywedry'ich-thoklontal-pi is known to be the eldest of all red dragons on Oerth. He advised the Suel Emperors)

  • 2. Is Snurre, King of Fire Giants, truly what he appears to be?

Yes

  • 3. What is Snurre's most powerful ally that is not the dragon "M"?

Unknown

  • 4. What is Snurre's most powerful ally on the Plane of Fire?

Imix

  • 5. What deity is Snurre's queen Frumpy a cleric of?

Imix

  • 6. Is Frumpy truly what she appears to be?

Yes

  • 7. Who truly rules in Snurre's dungeon fortress?

Unknown

  • 8. What is Snurre's most powerful magic?

The Panalopy of Elemental Evil (epic item set: Helm, boots, gauntlets, breastplate, cloak. Each one enchanted by one of the elemental evil princes. Little is known of its abilties, because they just made it for Snurre.)

  • 9. Who is Snurre's greatest enemy?

Surtur

  • 10. Who would willingly tell us of Snurre's weaknesses?

Frumpy

Freeing Vatun Info[edit]

Info from Contact Other Plane[edit]

  • 1. Does the axe Atakido know how Vatun might be freed?

yes

  • 2. What other entity knows how to free Vatun? (Hoping for one word name answer.)

Mortsdron

  • 3. If we free Vatun, will he aid us against the fire giants?

Not directly

  • 4. Does a portal to Vatun's prison lie within the five peaks of Corusk?

yes

  • 5. Can Vatun be freed within two days, if we take the right actions? (This is Themis's last question.)

Yes

  • 6. Where is Vatun's prison?

Under the Great Bear

  • 7. What is the most powerful foe guarding Vatun's prison?

Mephistopheles

  • 8. What tool is needed to break open Vatun's Prison? (This is Darius's last question.)

Atadiko (Atakido will meet its end in the guts of the Great Bear)

Info from Vision[edit]

The vision floats:

Five blades, shining cold, dance. A shadow falls upon them. They shatter. The shards form into a shield. Emblazoned upon it is a seal, with Vatun's name written in Infernal. Sigils of imprisonment burn around it with hellfire.

Information from Themis on Frost Giants[edit]

""The frost giant Jarl Mortsdron, is an incrediblely powerful fighter. He is a devotee of Thyrm, god of his kind, and is on personal speaking terms with the god Telchur. It is rumored that he helped Telchur imprison his rival god, Vatun. If this is true, he is extremely old. His personal weapon is the great axe Atadiko, whose blade is a frozen shard of hellfire and whose haft is the spine of Ako-zo, the first corpse-tearer linnorn. Fire is known to be extingusihed by his mere presence.

His people are berserkers and raiders, and previous to this war, were content fighting amongst themselves, other giants, particularly totem giants, and other challenges deep within their mountain ranges. They would occasionally raid the Sueloise barbarians. They had never turned their attention to the warm lands.

A particular cult of Thyrm has grown is power recently, the Disciples. They seek to cover the world in ice. They say they have recieved a sign, Mortsdron's defeat of a shivhad, an ancient abomination from the reign of darkness before Pelor lit the sky. They seek to cover Tenh, at least, in ice.

He has 13 clans under his direct rule, each clan have about 50 giants, most whom are able. They are spread over a wide range of territory through the Griff mountains, and feud often with the totem giants of the Rakers.

The land is covered in ice and snow, and is colder than the Land of Black Ice. As cold as the northern continent of Hyperboria.

Would brining the Simulacrum work? Unknown. He held Nosnra in bare contempt. He might not notice enough to see. He does have sorcerous and clerical aids though.

I have no idea of the Keeper's plans for the Scion. He did not know of it until Relend found the story of Daerd Ej-duj. He thought that he had had the remains of an avatar of Tharizdun.

The Keeper's long term plans were to become a god. Nosnra's long term plans were to rule as much as he could.

Further Themis Information on Mortsdron[edit]

"Mortsdron's followers are the 13 chiefs, great leaders and warriors, cunning and tough. He also has the Disciples of Thyrm to call upon, the highest which is his wife. She is highest in Thyrm's eyes of all his priests. He also has a bodyguard of frenzied berserkers, loyal beyond death, enchanted with many magics by the ice devil Chiurlyz, a psion of tremendous power, and Troba'langraythire, an ultraloth archmage. He also has the allegiance of Kayttil, King of the Yeti. The great white wyrm Frejlozzethisekeli and his mate Watsiklireybiloa guard his treasure horde. Numerous frost worms and remorhaz live in the area."

Themis also mentioned another ally of Mortsdron, Notlenoj, a mighty frost giant Skald (War Chanter)

Themis info on Vatun[edit]

Followers of Vatun are few. They live mostly in the no-mans land between the Ice and Snow Barbarians, in the peninsula known as the claw of Vatun.

His outsider followers were mainly elementals of air and water. His herald was the legendary anarchic polar bear Loji. It is thought that Loji wanders through the Corusk mountains, searching for Vatun's prison. Loji is not only an anarchic polar bear, but seems to be the epitome of all polar bears.

Vatun is thought to have created the Urskan, the armored bear people. They dwell in the Forlorn Forest, and feud with the Rovers of the Barrens and the Hold of Stonefist."

Divination Spells[edit]

Vision spell on Mortsdron's weaknesses[edit]

"As strong as he is, he lives a house of mal-ice. He rules through strength, and so he is brittle. And his strength is based on a lie."

XAOS: An explanation of the Vision, reflecting Issac's mighty brain.

The Jarl lives inside a glacier. The glacier is inhabited by some great evil that he has tamed. Ice breaks easier than stone. What could a good Earthquake do?

He is not the Mortsdron of legend, although he pretends to be.

Divination spells[edit]

  • 1. "How might Gregor best convince Loji to aid us against Mortsdron?"
  • Answer: To find the five blades of Corusk (The Five Blades of the Corusk are the key to Vatun's prison.)
  • 2. "Will Mortsdron or his forces make a move within the next week?"
  • Answer: They wait for Thyrmsday. (Thyrmsday is Godsday of Needfest, or about 27 days away.)

Commune Questions Pre Frost Giant attack[edit]

  • 1. "Is the Shivhad the monster trapped within Mortsdron's glacier?"
  • Answer: Yes (A Shivhad is an abomination that is forty feet high, with a sphere-like body studded randomly with eyes. It has eight legs, six mouths on the end of long necks, and three huge pincers. Only the greatest of white wyrms have a chance against one. It radiates the chill of the void. Illithids have the minds of children before it.)
  • 2. Does the ultraloth Troba'langraythire serve Mortsdron of its own free will?
  • Answer: It's bound by ancient pledge
  • 3. Will the ice devil Chiurlyz return voluntarily if banished?
  • Answer: Yes
  • 4. Will Mortsdron and allies detect a Simulacrum of Nosnra if I send it to infiltrate them?
  • Answer: Eventually
  • 5. Will the great white wyrm interfere if the glacier is attacked?
  • Answer: Yes.
  • 6. Is the great axe Atadiko the source of Mortsdron's authority?
  • Answer: Yes.
  • 7. Is Atakido intelligent?
  • Answer: Yes.
  • 8. Are there any standing anti-magic fields or other continuous effects in the glacier fortress that would expose Nehrahs if she was in wildshape?
  • Answer: Unknown
  • 9. Could the monster in the glacer be freed by an Earthquake spell directed at (here)?
  • Answer: It is not imprisoned.

Commune Questions Pre Vetun rescue[edit]

The sun gleams, striking his eyes, filling him with the glory of Pelor's sight. The god's harm voice fill his mind...

  1. "Would it please you to break the bondage of the god Vatun?" None should suffer as he has.
  2. "Can Frumpy, Queen of the Fire Giants, be persuaded to our cause?" She is a priestess of the Elemental Evils. She would betray you as quickly as a hurricane extinguishes a candle.
  3. "Can the bard Vivkt, called the awesome, pass safety to and from the court of the fire giants?" Vivkt, although he is awesome, is impulsive and not prone to foward thought.
  4. "Does the devil Mephistopheles guard Vatun's prison of his own will and cause?" That aspect does. However, Mephistopheles spilt off certain parts of himself to create that aspect, and it will disrupt him mightily when that aspect is dismissed.
  5. "Is there anyone I can reach who can tell us more of the defenses of Vatun's prison?" Yes. You know of him already.
  6. "Does anyone other than Mephistopheles command the guards of Vatun's prison?" He would accept no other to command
  7. "Can Dalt help us free his brother?" He is
  8. "Is there a means to protect us from Mephistopheles's Hellfire?" Yes, although it would take a saint who never committed violence
  9. "Is there a means to banish the Devils guarding Vatun?" As always with devils, invalidate their contract.
  10. "Is Mephistopeles's contract with Tiamant?" Er, no
  11. "Should we negotiate with Mephistopeles regarding his contract?" That would take an impressive act of diplomacy, and imperil your soul
  12. "Did Dalt appear to Gregor as a peddler?" He sent the peddler
  13. "Would the true Mortsdon willingly tell us of Vatun's prison?" He would certainly trade for it. You have his favorite possession
  14. Very Nice of Dalt to send the peddler. Is Mephistopeles's contract with Telchur?" It was with Telchur's high priest of the day
  15. "Would Zilchus know of the details of Mephistopeles's contract?" That is concievable
  16. "Would the true Mortsdon negotiate for Atakido?" He would gladly and eagerly
  17. "Would the release of Vatun be a fair trade for Atakido?" No. It is cheap at twice the price.

Rumors from fellow warriors against the Giants[edit]

  1. The Giants are allied with the Drow, Dark Elves who live below the surface of Oerth.
  2. Their leader is Eclavdra, Priestess of some unknown god.
  3. Eclavdra plans to extinguish the sun by freeing something from the lake of unknown depths.
  4. Her words are honeyed beyond any ever heard -- even Iuz the old.