Session 219

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Chancel_Amyra
Chapter 31

--»| YOU (Angelo) have joined #Nobilis
«Verithe» Those are the scariest ninjas ever. D:
«Angelo» Ciao picciotti!
«Verithe» Hi, Angelo!
«Knockwood» Hi Angelo
«Verithe» http://pinktentacle . com/2009/01/organic-robots-to-mimic-primitive-life/
«Lazarus» hey Angelo
«BethE» Hi Angelo!
«Lazarus» you got your N3 book - what's the inscription like?
«Angelo» Mine Nob3? One is dedicated to Ftisk the other to me. She wishes me a life full of sweetness
«Lazarus» :)
«Verithe» Candy!
«BethE» Awww. ^^
«Angelo» @V: or wife e childs
«Angelo» and your?
«Random_Nerd» Aww.
«Random_Nerd» So you ordered two copies?
«Angelo» Yep RN 2 copies
«Angelo» number 65 and 66
«Angelo» or 66 and 67 can't remember
«BethE» I think we were #43? Or 39.
«BethE» I've been having a headache all day, so I may not be the most coherent tonight.  :P
«Verithe» :(
«Knockwood» coherence is overrated
«Lazarus» I think I've slept only 6 hours in the past two days ...
«Random_Nerd» Angelo, which sessions did you need the logs for?
«Angelo» RN, I ask the log to Verithe and I'm good now :-)
«Angelo» RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?
«Random_Nerd» Let me see.
«Lazarus» and I can't figure out why Visual Studio won't let me build an installer that sets permissions on the files that _I_ install the way _I_ want them »_«
«Random_Nerd» Ah, okay.
«Random_Nerd» "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."
«Random_Nerd» Heh.
«Random_Nerd» Hmm.
«Angelo» Laz, take a look at innosetup http://www . jrsoftware . org/isinfo.php I used to love it when developed in Delphi but is language agnostic
«Random_Nerd» On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?
«Random_Nerd» Or Gnomely?
«Lazarus» Angelo: VS 2010 also includes an InstallShield thing, but I wanted to use the Windows .msi thing. I would've expected that using their default way of doing stuff would get a default installer that would generally, well, work. Except it doesn't.
«Angelo» @RN: Gnomely was created with a change and Ftisk definitely don't count as one
«Random_Nerd» But does Gnomely count as a machine now?
«Knockwood» (BRB)
«Angelo» no, he is not a machine by the definition
«Random_Nerd» Okay.
«Angelo» @Laz: vs2005 then too but that don't make the instalshield given with vs the best installer
«Random_Nerd» He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?
«Random_Nerd» And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?
«Angelo» that can't exist an ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things
«Angelo» like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes
«Verithe» A machine must be tangible, not abstract?
«Angelo» yes Verithe
«Random_Nerd» Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.
«Random_Nerd» And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?
«Angelo» ok I change the definition
«Angelo» no I see it as Data not machine
«Random_Nerd» Okay.
«Angelo» :-)
«Random_Nerd» And Data seems fine.
«Angelo» Super!
«Random_Nerd» I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.
«Angelo» Yep, less load on the HG
«Lazarus» Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or something like that that Vulcan probably also owns
«Random_Nerd» Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.
«Random_Nerd» Oh, one more question about machinery.
«Random_Nerd» Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?
«Angelo» on Gnomely I was under the conviction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain
«Random_Nerd» Or do they have to be made by a person?
«Knockwood» bak
«Angelo» uhm My idea is that they are purposeful made
«Random_Nerd» Hmm. You might want to devote a quality to that.
«Angelo» yes sound right
«Angelo» or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-
«Angelo» would work?
«Random_Nerd» Hmm.
«Random_Nerd» "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"
«Angelo» cool!
«Random_Nerd» Okay, let's see.
«Random_Nerd» Anything else, before we start?
«Angelo» nope :-)
=-= BethE is now known as Theresa
«Angelo» ah, just a statement: Ftisk like Theresa, IS *Conrad* project to kill her. There is a _difference!_
=-= Verithe is now known as Kite
«Kite» I'm ready!
=-= YOU are now known as Ftisk
«Lazarus» (BTW, Angelo, thank you a lot for that installer pointer! It's brilliant! ... unintegrated, but brilliant)
=-= Lazarus is now known as Brian
«Ftisk» (weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yeppaaaaaaaaaaaa wohooo!!!)
«Random_Nerd» Okay. You'd just sent William out to get permission to give you guys a list of Nobles affiliated with the Aides.
«Ftisk» (erh ... I mean you are welcome Laz)
«Random_Nerd» You'd tried to come up with an idea of what to do about Shadows and Consequences and Barakiel and the Lawbreaker.
«Kite» And we're going to visit either Ymir or the Angel of Mars, now?
«Ftisk» and Vassa later
«Random_Nerd» Yeah.
«Random_Nerd» Now, which did you want to do first?
=-= Knockwood is now known as DanteE
«Brian» (RN: would Brian know who to talk to to ask to bring his Fetch to the meeting?)
«Kite» Kite has more interest in Ymir, at the moment.
«Random_Nerd» (Hmm...)
«Random_Nerd» (He wouldn't be sure.)
«Ftisk» (Ftisk can't wait to meet his external Dad)
«Random_Nerd» (There's two angles he could work. He could try to do it by manipulating his fetch directly, the way Shadows does.)
«Random_Nerd» (Or he could try to describe his fetch, and then get Ftisk's siblings to get Vassa to try to find and bring him.)
«Random_Nerd» (Or he could get Shadows to get his fetch to try.)
«Random_Nerd» (Those are the approaches that would be most obvious to Brian based on what he knows.)
«Random_Nerd» (But there are probably others.)
«Random_Nerd» ____________________START____________________________
«Random_Nerd» (So, Ymir?)
«Ftisk» (ok)
«Brian» (I suppose that could work)
«DanteE» (Sky, right?)
«Kite» (Sky...and Revolutions?)
«Random_Nerd» (Violent Revolutions, yes.)
«Ftisk» (wasn't storm also)
«Random_Nerd» (No, not directly.)
«Random_Nerd» (But he could probably do things with storms as Imperator of the Sky.)
«Ftisk» (oh, missremember.. sorry)
«Brian» (why were we meeting this guy again?)
«Random_Nerd» (You wanted to.)
«Random_Nerd» (Right? Because of the civil war?)
«Brian» (oh, right)
«Kite» (Right!)
«DanteE» (Because Jerren's guy was breaking the sky)
«Brian» (my memory is not what it used to be. And given that it's mostly always been faulty...)

  • Ftisk stays comfy on Theresa shoulder

«Random_Nerd» (And you wanted to meet with the Angel of Mars as a favor to the BIA people.)
«Kite» (Kite thought it was significant that Ymir was also Violent Revolutions)
«Ftisk» "... Theresa can I ... uhm 'organize' your shoulder space?"
«Random_Nerd» (So, which do you want to do first?)
«DanteE» (How about we call all of them together and have them fight?)
«Theresa» "..what do you mean by organize? If you want to put in a stapler and a picture of your family and set-up a desktop...no."
«Random_Nerd» (That's later!)
«Theresa» (Revolutions, then War, then tea.)
«Kite» (Not even a little tattoo of his family on Theresa's neck?)
«Ftisk» "no these are more for home .. but great idea! ... I mean a radar and a (mini!) battery of rockets ... *mumbling* and a bath tube"
«DanteE» (Oh... we were going to talk to HQB at some point)
«Random_Nerd» (True. Do you go do that?)
«Theresa» "Bath tube?"
«Kite» (And we've already set up appointments with Ymir and the Angel of Mars. I'm just trying to make sure we keep them.)
«DanteE» (We could do that, tell him what JbJ said)
«Ftisk» "erh... you know a place filled with warm oil that can bring you back to life? that one!"
«Brian» (I think that would be a phenomenally bad idea, Dante :p)
«Random_Nerd» (I'm sure that that prophecy would in no way fulfill itself!)
«Random_Nerd» (Especially since you know already that it's started by him discovering something that JbJ couldn't see directly!)
«Theresa» "Oh, bath tub. With warm water for me. And it's not literally back to life. Uh, Ftisk, I don't think my shoulder can handle all of that. But we can set you up with a room that can be all yours in the Tower."
«DanteE» (It is? "JbJ is afraid of you despairing and leave Creation, so, um, don't, OK?")
«Kite» (I think bringing the prophecies to the various parties' attention is a bad idea.)
«Theresa» (HQB: "Oh thank you, still relatively new human Noble for telling me, a Wildlord of the Council, what to do. I shall do exactly what you say!"  ;P )
«DanteE» (They're not prophecies, they're fears.)
«Random_Nerd» (They're both!)
«DanteE» (They're what _could_ happen.)
«Brian» (these were bought as prophecy, not as fear)
«DanteE» (We have the opportunity to make sure they don't happen.)
«Random_Nerd» (Scary Prophecy 4: This Time The Oracle's A Vampire.)
«Ftisk» "Fair, it will be a lot less transportable but with more oil"
«Brian» (the prophecy is more "we will deal with this situation", not "this situation /will/ occur" of course)
«Kite» (We don't have to introduce the idea that will cause a bunch of Wildlords to commit suicide to the Wildlords themselves.)
«DanteE» (How exactly will we deal with it? By preventing it!)
«Theresa» "Indeed. And it will be easier to keep the oil warm without hurting me."
«Kite» (I don't think we need to tell the parties about the prophecies to prevent it.)
«Theresa» (Unless it's one of those prophecies that is triggered by telling the victim.)
«Random_Nerd» (Sometimes, the best way to screw with your players is to give them exactly what they asked for.)
«Kite» (We just prevent it without telling them why.)
«Theresa» (RN - yes, dear. *pat pat pat* Want a GM cookie?  :) )
«Ftisk» "Ok, deal done big T.! and you have my permission to use it too :-)"
«DanteE» (How do you prevent despair?)
«Kite» (You do not give reasons for despair.)
«DanteE» (Especially considering we haven't seen Etheric in months?(

  • Theresa inclines her head. "Thank you, Ftisk." *to the others* "So, where are we going? And do I have to change?"

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, reporting on the development of active writing for communication... we seem to be hitting a wall. We're making minor refinements, but we haven't had any big leaps in a while."
«DanteE» (So, we're in the conference room?)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "And most of what we're learning right now is the right ways for a human to focus his attention."
«Random_Nerd» (Presumably.)
«Ftisk» (so seem)
«DanteE» "... y'know what? We never did figure out what happened on 'Breach Day'.
«Kite» "I need to go to Dionyl and check up on my cult at some point. We could meet with Caesar for further insights if you would like, Sam."
«Kite» "When I go, that is."
«DanteE» "Considering its effects on Wildlords...
«Ftisk» "we can add that to the list of question for Vassa"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, I had a proposal, for long-term development. Right now, I have a core group of mathematics grad students. I'd like to propose making the knowledge of it open, at least in Amyra. Have classes in it taught in regular universities."
«Ftisk» "Cool Sam!"
«Brian» (given meeting room) "Ftisk, I hate to keep asking you for favours, but could you relay a request to your ... other ... siblings for me?"
«Brian» "Sam, that's a great idea."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, I have permission to proceed?"
«Ftisk» "Sure! What request?????"
«DanteE» "Do your grad students have enough information to teach it without distorting it?"
«Brian» "It's fine by me, Sam. Dante might have reservations, though."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well, distorting it is the /idea/. I hope that if we teach enough people about it, one of them will have an inspiration on how to do it better."
«Kite» "Somewhat like the early stages of the study of psychology?"
«Random_Nerd» S: "You can't force that kind of thing, but you can make conditions that help it happen."
«DanteE» "We've got a raccoon giving us info straight from the Imperator's mouth."
«Brian» "Ftisk: I'd like to get my Fetch to the meeting. I'm not quite sure how to do that - Conrad's siblings may have an idea, or may be willing to make it happen."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "We've already surpassed the raccoon."
«Theresa» (Quote page!)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "He gives solid code, but it's not... what was the word... optimized. More like proof-of-concept."
«DanteE» "Isn't the raccoon getting information from Caesar?"
«Ftisk» "Brian, I'll ask"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I don't know how the magic raccoon works. I just know that, on the stuff we're working hard on, we can do better."
«Kite» "So...the raccoon's code isn't entirely practical?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I kinda get the feeling that when Active Writing was around, there wasn't really... like, information theory. Computer science."
«DanteE» (Entire section -» quote page)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Maybe some sort of idea comparable to a 'turing machine', whatever that is, but not the later refinements."

  • Ftisk concentrate on Ftisk_v1 on channel Vulcan "Mourk call Oursoun, reply please, Mourk call Oursoun, reply please...."

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So when we use the modern methods along with what the raccoon knows, we get better results in many ways."
«Kite» "So Computer Science is interacting with it differently than the Raccoon Code allows for?"
«Random_Nerd» Vulcan: "I told you that television would rot your brain, Little Brother."
«Brian» "Hm. This discussion reminds me: William, is there any Power of Problem Complexity? I'd /really/ like to know the NP-Complete 'issue'."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well, it's just that the code the raccoon is working from is... primitive, by human standards. You're a lot better at this stuff than we are on Dionyl. It's really hard to develop the information sciences without written language."
«Kite» "Ah."
«DanteE» "... does that mean you've got grad students surpassing you?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yes."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I'm pretty good at this, but I'm a generalist, and my education in some of this stuff is thin."
«DanteE» "... their brains would explode if they met Caesar."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "True, there are things I can do that they can't, too."
«DanteE» "Come to think of it, have they seen the raccoon?"
«Ftisk» toFtisk: *I need to ask our Guests a question, can you relay it?
«Ftisk» *
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yeah, they've seen the raccoon. It doesn't seem to cause DA that I've been able to see."
«DanteE» (You're talking to yourself? :) )
«Random_Nerd» (The prototype Ftisk.)
«Kite» (Ftisk is talking to Brewnyr?)
«Theresa» "They're grad students. They would ask for free food."
«Ftisk» (Ftisk have an anchor that is Ftisk prototype and is called also Ftisk)
«Kite» (Oh!)
«Random_Nerd» Ftisk Senior: "I'll pass it along... there's a technician. Give me a moment."
«Kite» (Okay!)
«DanteE» (Theresa: seen phdcomic . com? :) )
«DanteE» (oops, forgot the s: phdcomics . com
«Theresa» (Yes!  :) I like that guy. ^^ And did you see that they have a short movie now?) )
«Ftisk» toFtisk_anchor: *the question is -Can in someway Vassa find Brian fetch «insert fetch description here» and bring him/she/it to the meeting?-*
«DanteE» T: I saw the promo. Also, I forgot an s in the sitename
«Random_Nerd» Ftisk Sr.: "I'll pass that along, and tell you when I hear back."
«Random_Nerd» (How do you describe his fetch?)
«Ftisk» toFtisk Sr: *Super!*
«Ftisk» (to laz: how you describe your fetch?)
«Random_Nerd» (When you thought you saw it in the Spirit World, it looked like you. But a lot of things looked different there.)
«DanteE» (Look for several people that look completely lost, then talk to their god. :) )
«Ftisk» (we lost Brian?)
«Brian» (nah, I've been futzing with colours, and lost myself x_x)
«Brian» (but I think I'm caught up again)
«Brian» (Brian would pretty much say "probably looks like me. Well, an Outside me.")
«Random_Nerd» Ftisk Senior: "I'll tell them to ask about that."
«Ftisk» to Ftisk sr: *the fetch will look like Brain, I send you some pictures of him from local newspapers*
«Random_Nerd» Ftisk Sr: "I'll also ask them to register on the chancel network, so I can just talk to them directly. Uh... do we want them to have guest privileges on our network?"
«Ftisk» to Ftisk sr: *good!*
«Brian» (I think I might have to file a bug report with this chat program's builders - the "default message text colour" button is broken :p)
«Ftisk» (what could ever go wrong with that?!?!)
«Random_Nerd» Ftisk Sr: "Okay, little brother."
«Kite» (Kite wants to not be oblivious to this conversation.)
«Brian» (they have a colour change inserted where the nickname is that they don't then change back. Strange. But I got it sorted!)
«Kite» (:P)
«Ftisk» to Ftisk sr: *cheers big one!*
«Ftisk» toBrian "done, I send some of your pictures too to Ftisk Senior back home"
«Brian» "Thank you Ftisk."

  • Ftisk spin around Theresa head 2 times "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

«Kite» "Does Ftisk Sr. have a crush on Brian, now?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam twitches.
«DanteE» "OK, who can we talk to to get support for meeting Vassa?"
«Ftisk» "Why? You found something on him?"
«Ftisk» my line was to Kite
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well, we currently have meetings set up with Samael, a Fallen Angel, and with Ymir, an Old God."
«DanteE» "Well, he may be able to tell us what happened on Breach Day.
«Kite» "No. Why were you sending pictures?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Previously, I'd thought we had the God angle covered via Jan, but now... best to cover our bases."
«DanteE» "Unless we have a way to figure something out from this side...
«Ftisk» toK: "because he wand a description of Brian fetch that ... probably... would be like Brian"
«Kite» "Ah. Okay, Ftisk."
«DanteE» "and going by the hypothesis that the events of Breach Day are related to whatever screws with Wildlords and Ha-Qadosh."
«DanteE» "and possibly Jan ben Jan."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, what's the plan, bossdudes and manager-ladies?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam pauses for a moment as if waiting for William to glare at him, but then remembers that he's out on business.
«DanteE» (OK, reviewing: #1: Barakiel & the Lawbreaker. #2: HQB gets scared and hides. #3: Wildlords go bye-bye. #4: Entropy. #5: Jan ben Jan despairs, cheats, dies.)
«Theresa» (Ladie_s_?)
«DanteE» (Sam's been watching Scrubs.)
«Ftisk» (we lost that line in translation ;___; )
«Brian» (one of the grad students was in the room?)
«Random_Nerd» (TV show.)
«DanteE» "Three of the prophecies, maybe four, are basically bad responses to fear..."
«DanteE» (1, 2 & 5, maybe 3)
«DanteE» "Something happens that's big enough to shake our best defenders to the core...
«Theresa» (Entropy is all about fear.)
«Ftisk» "You can fill imps of courage?"
«Theresa» "But that's kind of par for the course for a change of Ages."
«DanteE» "I can't do squat to Imperators."
«DanteE» "It can't _just_ be that, though... can it?"
«Ftisk» "then we need to Imp-ize Dante"
«Theresa» "Heck, the whole thing about what Ananda _is_ has probably been on Imperator brains since he showed up."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I don't see fear as the theme of really any of them. More... self-doubt, maybe?"
«DanteE» "No, there's fear.
«DanteE» "One says Barakiel will do the wrong thing due to being scared of the Age change. We've already seen that."
«Theresa» "Well, the Fall was a big shakeup between the 1st and 2nd Ages. Then the death of the Thirdborn and the Excrucians declaring war, that was 2nd and 3rd."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, do you think that Ananda will crumble too, and then Gamaliel or someone will announce themselves as Gamaliel Ananda Chocolate Deluxe?"
«DanteE» (Who's Gamaliel?)
«Theresa» "I don't know. If Ananda is that beautiful, finding out he's part chocolate would be too much."
«Theresa» (Random fancy name.)
«Kite» "I hope they have a better name than that."
«Kite» "And that they don't exist."
«DanteE» "Gamaliel?"
«Random_Nerd» (Patterns' Imperator. But Sam was just pulling a name out of a hat.)
«Kite» "Gamaliel Ananda Chocolate Deluxe, Dante. I think Sam is referring to Attaris."
«DanteE» "... Attaris. She'll do something...
«DanteE» "or _reveal_ something.
«Brian» "Or quite possibly doesn't need to."
«Theresa» "Or she may just sit back with a margarita and a bowl of popcorn."
«Brian» "Given enough pawns and cats-paws, you never need to lift a finger."
«Kite» "Rather, that Attaris is dead and Attaris Ebrot Appeka is now the Imperator of the Age."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yeah. I mean, Attaris is scary enough now, but can you imagine watching something like that happen? You get all ready for this one Imperator to lead the age, and then something totally bizarre happens and everyone just goes along with it?"
«Kite» (Unless I have the names backwards)
«Random_Nerd» (Attaris is alive. Ebrot Appeka, a fallen angel, is dead.)
«Kite» (Okay!)
«Random_Nerd» (Attaris Ebrot Appeka used to be Attaris, Magister of the Wild.)
«Kite» (I get those confused.)
«DanteE» (Uhoh. Attaris is a mimic?)
«Ftisk» (is possible)
«Theresa» "Not much else to do. Age Imperators are scary."
«Brian» "By the way, Sam: how much investigation has actually been done around Attaris' ... transformation? I know lots, but anything concrete?"
«Ftisk» "look at JbJ, he is weird not even wanted my pieces... well not all of them"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I figure the Imperators worked out something to their own satisfaction. But they didn't tell /me/ whatever they came up with."
«DanteE» "Who would have records from way back then?"
«Kite» (You guys met with Attaris and Ebrot Appeka before Kite joined in, yes?)
«Ftisk» (we meet him but can't remember when)
«DanteE» (We talked with an aspect of Attaris... who set off alarms on Jupiter.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Mmm... Pre-War stuff, or early post-War? The Aides don't have anything even five /hundred/ years old, let alone five /thousand/."
«DanteE» (and we saw Eprot Appeka when we went back in ... ah, what's-his-face's mind)
«DanteE» (... we may need to do that again, see exactly what happened at the age's end)
«Random_Nerd» (Ja Phon, of the Light.)
«DanteE» (or find Cneph, and ask him nicely. You know, simple stuff like that.)
«Ftisk» (can be a prj Dante)
«Brian» "Do we even know /when/ Attaris Ebrot Appeka Voltronned?"
«Kite» (Let's start meeting with who we have plans for.)
«Random_Nerd» (And you took some of Ebrot Appeka's blood, and gave it to Jan ben Jan.)
«Kite» "Just before the Age began, I thought."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "From what I hear, /right/ when it began."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But that's, like, seventeenth-hand."
«DanteE» "We need to talk to beings who were there."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "We're talking about events that happened before humans and Dionyl figured out how to work copper."
«DanteE» (Did we get a copy of the Big Book of Imperial History?)
«Random_Nerd» (...is there one?)
«Theresa» "But after stew."
«Ftisk» (sorry that book is finished, came back next week)
«DanteE» "The history says Eprot crumbled to dust, and Attaris Eprot Appeka appeared then. Who witnessed that?"
«Ftisk» "Is there an History power?"
«Kite» "Ymir is an Old God. Maybe he did. Let's go ask him."
«Brian» "Kite's right. We have meetings."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "This was before History."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But after Time."
«Ftisk» "oh... welll There is Time Power then?"
«Kite» "Let's go! Let's go!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Does it ever, you know, /creep you out/ to talk to Imperators that are that old? Jan ben Jan has been around since before either of our species' /existed/."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "And some of the Angels are older than /Time/."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "They helped /invent/ it."
«Ftisk» "JbJ is weird but in a cool way!"
«Theresa» (What was the Thirdborn Imperator of? The ability to not die?)
«DanteE» "Maybe we could talk to them."
«Ftisk» "And Ophaniel make me all gear up"
«Brian» "Sam, it helps to be slightly unhinged."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Oh. Then I'm covered!"
«Theresa» "Maybe a little. That's why it's good to be polite. And not get them upset. It also helps the weirdness to listen to blades of grass. They're not too bright."
«Kite» "It helps to be old."
«DanteE» "Either that or the Lord of Courage."
«Kite» "Which car are we taking?"
«Ftisk» toK: "It help to be _young_"
«Ftisk» "The batcar!"
«Kite» "I think, Ftisk, it is not youth that helps you."
«Random_Nerd» Sam, to Ftisk: "Who told you about that? It's not even finished!"
«Kite» "BATCAR!"
«Ftisk» "Eh, Kite? Is again in batcostume so .. batcar!"
«DanteE» (So, going to see Ymir?)
=-= Kite is now known as BatKite
«BatKite» (Yes!)
«Ftisk» (yep)
«DanteE» "OK, Sam, tell us about Ymir."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "If we're going to see Ymir, you'll want to bring a plane."
«BatKite» "On the road....oh"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Or a helicopter. Or a blimp. Blimp would be best, do you have one?"
«Brian» "Oh, and Sam, we once heard excited bricks."
«BatKite» "BATPLANE!"
«Theresa» (Batblimp?)
«BatKite» (...)
«Ftisk» "Brian, what they (the brick) say then???"
«BatKite» (I have no objection to a Batblimp.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Okay. No blimp."
«DanteE» (or some steampunk contraption that we can launch into the air yet still launch planes from. :)
«Random_Nerd» (Sam wants a blimp.)
«Theresa» "Mostly...'brick'."
«Theresa» "It's a tonal thing."
«Brian» "Happy and excited bricks apparently say 'Brick!'. Old Imperators actually speak more than one word. Damn PokeBricks."
«BatKite» "Nono! A Batblimp is okay too..."
«Ftisk» "like a chorus T?"
«Brian» "I wish a Zeppelin, that can be launched from a sky-fortress like SHIELD has."
«Theresa» "A bit like that, Ftisk."
«Ftisk» "ohhhhhhhh!"
«BatKite» "I'll go make one. The Grove sound like a good place?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "William told me we don't have the budget for a heli-carrier."

  • Ftisk nod

«DanteE» "Actually, I want to know why we don't have a mobile air fortress. Brian, why not?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Also, that I am not allowed to wear an eyepatch."
«Brian» "Sam, we have all the budget we need."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Then why don't you have one?"
«Brian» "Because we didn't think of it until now?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Seriously. Not having one, given the opportunity, indicates /serious moral failings/, boss."
«Theresa» "it's a 'on a need' basis."
«Theresa» (I love Sam. ^^ )
«Brian» "Now that we need something that can fly, other than Ftisk and Kite, we might as well."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Oh, you, like, have a /time-share/ on a helicarrier?"
«Brian» "If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing, of course."
«DanteE» "Because we just recently decided we wanted to be proactive."
«BatKite» "I'm going to the Grove to make a Batblimp, unless someone objects!"
«Random_Nerd» (That, to Theresa.)
«DanteE» (Where'd William go?)
«Ftisk» "Kite I want help, I'll come with you!"
«Theresa» *to Sam* "Not that I know of, but I'm also not on the particle accelerator mailing list."
«BatKite» "Okay, Ftisk!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Not my project, you'd have to ask Jim."

  • Ftisk fly and land on Kite shoulder

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "He rarely even sends me emails."
«Random_Nerd» (You guys sent William out on an errand.)
=-= YOU are now known as robinTisk
«Random_Nerd» (To get permission to disclose the Aides' list of allied Nobles.)
«BatKite» "Could you move to my back, Ftisk? It's difficult to fly with you on my shoulder."
«DanteE» "We know some military guys, maybe they have at least part of a mobile fortress."
«robinTisk» "Gosh batKite I can fly too!"
«BatKite» "Then, let's fly! To the BatGrove!"
«robinTisk» "to the Batgroove!"

  • BatKite flies to the grove and begins Assembly of a Batblimp.
  • robinTisk fly too and help BatKite

«Theresa» "Let's just start with Kite's blimp and go from there. No need to go and get something" *to Sam* "while awesomely cool" *back to others* "that we can get later when we're not on a schedule."
«DanteE» "I'm just happy they didn't just strap engines to the tower."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "GENIUS!"
«robinTisk» (just say that near Ftisk and he will want to do that)
«Random_Nerd» (So, given the miraculous assets you have on hand, constructing a blimp is pretty much a foregone conclusion.)
«Random_Nerd» (So, tell me. What kind of blimp do you build?)
«robinTisk» ( /me nod to RN )
«Theresa» "No. The Tower will not leave the Chancel. The Heart is here!"
«robinTisk» (But the tower can fly around the chancel)
«DanteE» "Sam, is your map of passages comprehensive enough to find pathways we can fly a blimp through?"
«Theresa» (But we're going _outside_ of the Chancel.)
«BatKite» (Mostly a normal one with a Batman motif and a few extra levers and switches. Also small guns/canons for shooting out a cloud screen...and maybe bullets.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yes."
«Brian» "Zeppelin, not blimp, people ... Zeppelins have the compartment on the inside!"
«robinTisk» (found with a search for bat blimp: http://techcnt . sakuhetu . com/uploads/2010/02/Gigabyte-Radeon-HD-5770-Graphic-Card.jpg bat graphic card!)
«Theresa» (And batsharkrepellant.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yep. That's a Batblimp. Recognize it anywhere."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "We can make the helicarrier later?"
«BatKite» (Batsharkrepellant! And Batsquidrepellant!)
«robinTisk» ( this one: http://farm4 . static . flickr . com/3069/3034463835_fe81ab178a.jpg )
«Brian» "Sam, you can draw up plans for a helicarrier. And remember who you work with."
«BatKite» (Do we need all the room a zeppelin has? There's only a few of us.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Okay, boss."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, to the Sky?"
«robinTisk» (we can carry passengers Kite, like the fishpeoples)
«robinTisk» (the fishpeoples are in Amyra or they go?)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Short version here. Ymir doesn't have Nobles, but he's still kind of a big deal."
«Random_Nerd» (Some chose to stay, most returned home.)
«Brian» (and the answer is "if it means we get a Zeppelin, then of course we do!")
«DanteE» (and better to have room we don't need than to later need room we don't have)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "You know how, on Earth, the honorific for Imperators is 'Ymera'? Yeah, that /is/ a cognate."
«BatKite» "To the BatSky!"
«robinTisk» "a Cognate?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Same root word. It's based on his name."
«robinTisk» "So he is the dad of the word Ymera? Cool!"
«DanteE» "So what do we call him?"
«robinTisk» "IMP!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I'd go with 'Sir'."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Oh, and one last thing. The myth about the sky being made from his skull? Totally true. Happened when the Younger Gods rebelled. But the thing is... he's still in it."
«Random_Nerd» As he directs the zepplin, he points.
«Theresa» "So we're breathing his brains?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "See the sky? Yeah. We are /in Ymir's head/."
«robinTisk» "uncool!"
«BatKite» "Uhh..."
«DanteE» "So, Jerren was fracturing his skull?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "And, yes, the Younger Gods rebelled against the Lord of Violent Rebellion and the Sky, killed him, and made the sky from his skull. Shame he wasn't also the Lord of Irony."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well, not fracturing it. Making little chips in it, maybe."
«robinTisk» "Like my eye on the eyestalk!"
«DanteE» "... where exactly are we going, to his pineal gland?"
«BatKite» "They killed him?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Now, I'm going to have to ask all of you to switch to the Mythic for this, as deep as you can go. And I'm going to need a few minutes to collect myself and try to do the same."
«robinTisk» (Ftisk have a piece of sky on the eyeless eyestalk)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "We are flying out his right eyehole. We will fly to the other side of the sky, and talk to him from outside."

  • BatKite switches to deep mythic

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well... 'killed' is such a /relative/ term when you're a god."

  • Theresa concentrates and switches.

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "A dead god may still be more alive than a living man."
«DanteE» "Let's head topside first, make it easier to talk..."

  • robinTisk concentrate and switches
  • Brian switches, trying to make a "mental record" of what he does to do so
  • DanteE heads to the top deck before switching...

«Random_Nerd» Kite, you see thick tendrils of story and purpose curl across the sky.
«Random_Nerd» (Okay, for entering the Deep Mythic, there are two methods.)
«DanteE» (if you see a tendril of screwage give it a good yank, would you? :) )
«Random_Nerd» (One takes slow concentration.)
«Random_Nerd» (Even for a Noble.)
«Random_Nerd» (The other takes a miracle that can beat a Level 3 Auctoritas which protects the boundary between worldviews.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam, anchortalk, to Brian: "Boss, can you help me out here? I just can't make it work."
«BatKite» (An Aspect Miracle or whichever one can manage that will work?)
«DanteE» (What kind of Miracle?)
«Brian» (to Sam) "What's wrong?"
«Random_Nerd» (Yeah. Aspect, or anything else that seems appropriate to changing your perceptions.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "It's just hard. And I'm too out of shape, having been on Earth all this time."

  • DanteE fires off a Level 4 Courage to See Miracle. :)

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I haven't had to fight against an overpowering will for long enough that I guess my worldsight has grown weaker than I thought."

  • Theresa focuses herself, using an Aspect 3 miracle to become a still and quiet creature of total control.

«Random_Nerd» (So, Lesser Creation, 3 Strike?)
«Brian» (did I give Sam the ability to jump into my perceptions permanently, or was that temporary?)
«Random_Nerd» (4 DMPs, Dante.)
«Random_Nerd» (It's a thing you can do with a Treasure miracle.)

  • robinTisk use a level 4 Data miracle to catch the Deep Mythic feed

«Random_Nerd» (What you gave him permanently was the ability to resist winds and other currents of motion.)
«BatKite» (I'll use Aspect...4.)
«DanteE» (Would that let anyone else see, or just me?)
«Random_Nerd» (One person per use.)
«Random_Nerd» (Aspect works best because the Aspect miracle level needed is the lowest.)
«DanteE» (In that case I'll just do an Aspect 4 miracle, 1 AMP)
«Random_Nerd» (But remember, you need both a miracle that justifies it, and 3 strike. Level 1 Aspect is enough.)
«Random_Nerd» (For other things, the level would vary.)
«BatKite» (I'll do the Aspect 1 plus strike, then.)
«Random_Nerd» (Eclipses could do it with a lesser destruction and let others come along, for instance, by locally destroying the barrier.)
«Brian» (Brian will use the Concentration method. What's the level for the Treasure version of the Miracle?)
«Random_Nerd» (Let me see...)
«Random_Nerd» (Guidance, to strengthen Sam's own efforts, seems appropriate.)
«Random_Nerd» (So, level 2.)
«Random_Nerd» (And you can probably use your Bond to Sam to help with the Strike.)
«Brian» (And I can count on the Chancel MP-discount, so I believe that's 0 TMPs. Will do!)
«DanteE» (Wait, I've got Figure Out What's Going On-2
«Random_Nerd» (This counts.)
«Random_Nerd» (So, that's a free two strike to Dante. 0 AMPs, then.)
«DanteE» (So, no AMPs needed. :)
«Random_Nerd» (Okay, I think everyone's covered.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Trippy. Earth is /weird/."
«Random_Nerd» Everything seems permeated with creatures writhing through them. Where in the Border Mythic things tend to appear as humanoid, here everything seems to be massive shapes of various animals or mythical creatures.
«Brian» "Sam, imagine this on acid."
«Brian» "Then you get the Wall."
«Random_Nerd» The Cloud-Bull clashes with the Boar of the Wind in the sky, both turning for a moment to watch you pass.
«Random_Nerd» Up ahead, you see a big hole in the sky.
«Random_Nerd» There's no blue. No stars, even.
«Random_Nerd» Just emptiness.
«robinTisk» "There, we go there to exit the sky!"
«Random_Nerd» And then, off in the distance, something silvery-green, glimmering.

  • BatKite waves to the Cloud-Bull and Boar-Wind

«Random_Nerd» The Windboar roars at Kite.
«Random_Nerd» Miles below, storms rage.
«BatKite» "Are we going to the shiny thing, Sam?"
«DanteE» what's our zeppelin look like?
«Random_Nerd» The sky is actually getting /closer/ now. It's close enough that you can make out the surface more clearly.
«Brian» (I read that as "Mills brothers, storms rage" or something like that.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "No, that's farther than we're going. That's the Ash,
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Or, at least, one of its branches."
«robinTisk» "Cool!"
«Random_Nerd» And with that, you bring the blimp out of the socket of Ymir's skull.
«BatKite» "We should visit it, sometime."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Okay, bring it around."

  • Theresa looks with longing at the branch.

«Random_Nerd» Propped on top of a long flat surface of land, you see a skull.
«Random_Nerd» Half is blue and white, the other half is dark and pocked with stars.
«Random_Nerd» And outside, above you, in the distance, you can see the Ash stretching from the bottom of the universe to the top.
«Random_Nerd» And near the top, you see the /other/ stars. The ones that aren't just balls of gas, but /people/.
«Random_Nerd» Sam shouts to the skull: "Lord Ymir! I bring with me the Nobles of Locus Amyra and of Locus Vulcan, who have begged an audience with you!"
«Random_Nerd» (And do you mind if we call it a night here?)
«robinTisk» (is a good stop point)
«DanteE» (OK... )
«BatKite» (Sounds good.)
«DanteE» (Long as we remember what we intend to ask him)
«robinTisk» (did we ever remember?)
«Brian» (sure!)
«Random_Nerd» ___________STOP_______________
=-= Brian is now known as lazarus
=-= YOU are now known as Angelo
«Random_Nerd» I don't think you ever told me what you wanted to ask him.
=-= BatKite is now known as Verithe
«DanteE» well, we were brought here because of Jerren's minion's actions
«Theresa» "Why the long face?"
«Angelo» why the sky is blue?
=-= DanteE is now known as Knockwood
«Knockwood» "You OK with Jerren putting little chips in your skull?
«Random_Nerd» So, too dramatic? Not dramatic enough?
«Angelo» unexpected
«Knockwood» "Also, what happened 1000 cosmic years ago?"
«Knockwood» well, we were kinda bumbling around directionless. As usual.
«Verithe» Kite wants to ask Ymir's perspective on the End of the Age, mostly. But he also wants to try to recruit him to our side of the Civil War.
«Random_Nerd» Or, at least, to get his backing for the Vassa summit?
«lazarus» all of the above...
«Verithe» I thought it was well-balanced dramatic.
«Angelo» wasn't Vassa summit a private one?
«Verithe» Yes, that would also be good.
«Angelo» like Kudzu, Vassa, Vulcan, HSQ?
«Verithe» We need support for the summit.
«Knockwood» Angelo: we need a pile of political support to pull it off.
«Angelo» ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
«Random_Nerd» Yeah, but Vulcan wanted you guys to get enough Imperial support to make it politically difficult for Entropy to say it was just the work of some rogue nobles.
«Angelo» oh my! I completely forgot that
«Random_Nerd» If you've got key Imperators from the major factions behind it, it looks much more legitimate.
«Knockwood» and we're talking to Ymir because of "Breaking the Sky"
«Random_Nerd» Yeah.
«Random_Nerd» So, three main reasons, I guess.
«Random_Nerd» Civil War, Summit, Sky-Breaking.
«Verithe» Right.
«Knockwood» and now, asking what happened last age change
«Knockwood» so, 4 reasons
«Knockwood» (and at some point Dante still needs to confront Brian for not telling him everything about the Entropy prophecy)
«Verithe» Yes.
«Random_Nerd» True. Dante knows Brian enough to know he was holding something back.
«Angelo» and at some point Dante will know that Ftisk is not more into him?
«Verithe» Though Kite was just using that as an excuse to get us to see Ymir, he would be a good person to ask.
«Angelo» ask on Kite past?
«Knockwood» well, he knows that, but doesn't know it took cutting out a piece of your soul to get there.
«Random_Nerd» True. Ymir is old, pre-Fall.
«Knockwood» Dante thinks Ftisk's thing was just a goofy infatuation.
«Random_Nerd» Not /long/ pre-Fall, though. The rise of the younger generation of gods... well, it didn't follow too long after the birth of the Imperator of Violent Revolution.
«Angelo» eh, when Ftisk say that JbJ is weird can have been a cue for Dante for ask.
«Random_Nerd» So, in a weird sort of way, Ymir is kind of like a Proto-Jerren.
«Knockwood» naah, Dante _knows_ JbJ is weird
«Angelo» well will spring out some way. Ftisk is not holding back info... is that no one ask him the right question
«Random_Nerd» Oh, and you guys aren't in the Ouside right now, but you are outside of Earth.
«Random_Nerd» In the broader sense that includes, like, Mars and Jupiter and stuff.
«Angelo» outside of earth sphere on the three?
«Random_Nerd» The three?
«Random_Nerd» Ah, yes.
«Random_Nerd» Outside of the Earth sphere.
«Knockwood» didn't Kudzu take Amyra away from Earth?
«Random_Nerd» Eh...
«Angelo» the wood -thing- that connect hell to haven :-P
«Random_Nerd» Depends how you define your terms.
«Random_Nerd» He made it like... say, like a beach house, on stilts, instead of a house on a foundation.
«Verithe» tree
«Random_Nerd» It's separated from it some, but there are still points of connection.
«Knockwood» so Amyra is still under Ymir?
«Angelo» That remind me that Kudzu want to package and run away at some point....
«lazarus» I'd still kinda like to know the "good" reason for Ftisk to kill T.
«Random_Nerd» Yes, it is.
«Knockwood» and a bunch of other really high scoring Scrabble words
«lazarus» it's the kind of thing that you can't just put out there. It's like ... it implies there IS!
«Random_Nerd» Indeed!
«Random_Nerd» Some of the other ones were suggestive, too.
«Knockwood» wasn't that what you should ask if you want to die?
«Knockwood» at least one of those implies there's a Mimic in the mix somewhere
«Random_Nerd» To die and feed Jan ben Jan all the parts of you that are not Warmained, yes.
«Angelo» no was the one you ask if you want to remain a warmain ... I believe
«lazarus» and what was that about the random Noble (Wood?) that we've never (to our knowledge) interacted with before?
«Random_Nerd» «@Random_Nerd» "The answer is, if you wish to still live afterwards, and as a Noble, you must ask me the best way to cause the Power of Wood to kill his own father. If you wish to live on as a Warmain, you must ask me what Ymera Gamaliel ought to do to preserve his life for the next three months."
«Random_Nerd» «@Random_Nerd» JbJ: "And if you wish to die, you mush ask me what the best possible reason to kill Theresa, Power of Plants is."
«Random_Nerd» «@Brian» (metagaming the Jan ben Jan!)
«Random_Nerd» «@Random_Nerd» Jan ben Jan: "And if you wish to live on as you are now, you need ask nothing further."
«Knockwood» here it is, Session 217
«Theresa» "Because it would be cool."
«Angelo» eh
«Knockwood» because the Supreme God of All (the HG) Is A Bastard?
«lazarus» ... *PING!* "Gamaliel" in the above sentence!
«lazarus» would Ftisk remember that and make a bit of a connection?
«Random_Nerd» Possibly.
«Random_Nerd» Angelo, what do you think?
«Theresa» Gam is Pattern's Imperator.
«Angelo» hum is possible
«Knockwood» Patterns would be able to spot Mimics just because of his Domain
«Angelo» If someone ask Ftisk he will recount what JbJ told him and that one can do the connection
«lazarus» that is a very leading question.
«Random_Nerd» Because of his Domain?
«Random_Nerd» Or because he's incredibly paranoid?
«Knockwood» both
«Angelo» both
«Angelo» jinx
«Knockwood» so, Gamaliel is a Mimic, and the Power of Wood's father is a deep-cover agent?
«Random_Nerd» Hmm. Interesting.
«Theresa» (Well, all, I need sleep. Good game and good night. *HUGS*
«Theresa» )
«Knockwood» g'night Beth
«Verithe» G'night, Beth!
=-= Theresa is now known as BethE
«Angelo» night Beth, sleep well!
«Knockwood» hold on
«Random_Nerd» Oh, and just one other thing... Gamaliel has come up before when talking with Jan ben Jan.
«Knockwood» isn't Theresa the Power of Wood?
«Random_Nerd» Nope.
«Random_Nerd» She's the Power of Plants.
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«Random_Nerd» Just like how there can be a Power of Mammals and a Power of Hounds.
«Knockwood» they should meet anyway. :)
«Random_Nerd» Probably true.
«Angelo» well, I go too, good session guys! ^_^
«Verithe» Take care, Angelo!
«Random_Nerd» And Samael should meet with the Imperators of Sweat and Tears?
«Verithe» Hmm....
«Knockwood» also the Lord of 60s Funk Bands
«Random_Nerd» Would you call them funk:?
«Random_Nerd» I'd think more like prog rock or jazzy rock or something.
«Knockwood» you're right, looking over their Wikipedia page
«Verithe» Their last meeting produced the band, perhaps.
«Random_Nerd» Rhythm's all wrong for funk.
«Random_Nerd» And I don't think they used much in the way of synthesized stuff, either.
«Random_Nerd» Although now I feel an urge to listen to some George Clinton tracks.
«Random_Nerd» Later, guys.
«Knockwood» anyhoo. Are we going off on any wild goose chases?
«Verithe» Take care!
«Knockwood» ... more than usual?
«Random_Nerd» ...no more than usual.
«Random_Nerd» Maybe less.
«Random_Nerd» For PCs, not all that much at all.
«Knockwood» «Keanu»whoa.«/Keanu»
«Random_Nerd» I hadn't been sure where you were going with the Ymir thing, but when you laid it out... yeah, it makes sense.
«Random_Nerd» Anyway, see you next week.
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«Knockwood» Cya RN
«Knockwood» later guys.
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«Verithe» Bye!
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