Session 233

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Chancel_Amyra
Chapter 32

=-= User mode for Angelo is now +ix
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«Random_Nerd» Hey, Angelo.
«Angelo» Hi RN!
«Verithe» Hi, Angelo!
«Angelo» Ciao all!
«BethE» Hiya Angelo! *HUG*

  • Angelo counter hug Beth :-)

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«Knockwood» Hiyo
«Angelo» Hi Knock!
«Verithe» Oh, the people we have! *hugs everyone*
«BethE» Hiya Knock
«BethE» I'm not feeling too good, but I'm kinda here. ^^
«Verithe» Oh. :(
«Knockwood» Aren't we all kinda here? :P
«Angelo» @Beth: :-(
«BethE» RN's sicker than me. Bronchitus and a sinus infection,.
«Random_Nerd» I'm thinking this will either have to be a short session or an oOC one because...
«Random_Nerd» That.
«Random_Nerd» Session.
«Random_Nerd» OOC.
«Random_Nerd» Dammit, Tpyo.
«BethE» Tpyo appreciates your offerings and asks that you tip your waitress!
«Verithe» She makes things fun, that Tpyo.
«Knockwood» Well, RN, if you're sick...
«Random_Nerd» I cancelled last week.
«Random_Nerd» We should do at least a half-session now.
«Angelo» and cancelling the session? Is not a problem
«Knockwood» Unless you're really sick, in which case, think you could re-compute our XP? :D
«Random_Nerd» So... which game did we do the week before last?
«Verithe» Chuubo, I think
«Random_Nerd» Okay. So, it'll be Amyra...
«Random_Nerd» Let me see where we were.
«Random_Nerd» Okay. You and Martyrs were going to try to press your case with her imperator.
«BethE» And we were going to get John along to the big meeting.
«Knockwood» How protected is John?
«Random_Nerd» At the moment?
«Random_Nerd» Or the best you could do if you all worked on it?
«Knockwood» right now
«Random_Nerd» Basically, Durant.
«Knockwood» is that enough?
«Random_Nerd» To stop a Warmain that actively wants to kill you?
«Knockwood» that's to everyone, not just you RN
«BethE» What's the best we could do and still keep him unAnchored/unclaimed by an Imperator?
«Random_Nerd» Hmm.
«Verithe» He is a Thing of Amyra, yes?
«Random_Nerd» Yes.
«Random_Nerd» Falls within that pseudodomain.
«Verithe» Laz?
«Random_Nerd» Even when he's not actually /in/ Amyra.
«Verithe» Or wait...Laz has the Persona pseudoEstate, yes?
«Random_Nerd» I think he has persona and domain of it, doesn't he?
«Verithe» I don't remember. Domain would be best for Preservations.
«Random_Nerd» Yeah.
«BethE» I have Domain of Amyra 2.
«Random_Nerd» Let's see, that lets you go up to 6 without a WoC.
«Verithe» Yay!
«BethE» And would preservation be good for his..Amyraness? I mean, he's going to have to give up the throne sometime.
«Lazarus» yeah, both
«Lazarus» at 2 IIRC
«Verithe» Well, you don't need him to be immortal.
«BethE» If we preserve him, people may freak. Or the Treasures might freak. We might have to ask them first.
«Knockwood» Hm... maybe we should poll the populace and see what they think of us
«Random_Nerd» You could preserve him from harm, mental monkeying, and shapechanges without making him unaging.
«Random_Nerd» And... hmm.
«Angelo» (substitute him with a roboclone!)
«Random_Nerd» If you wanted to make sure he was safe, one of the two with Domain: Amyra could stand ready to teleport him back home if things got nasty.
«Knockwood» That's actually not a bad idea, Angelo...
«Knockwood» Not for this, for public appearances
«Random_Nerd» Here, or at the meeting?
«BethE» Not for the meeting. Might look shifty.
«Verithe» Would the...er...artifacts be displeased with a roboclone?
«Knockwood» and he specifically wants to experience it.
«Random_Nerd» Those probably would.
«Random_Nerd» It's currently unclear how they recognize that the Right Person is there.
«Knockwood» I just think a robo-clone would come in handy if something nasty comes in and demands to see our leader
«Random_Nerd» With lasers and flamethrowers, just in case?
«Knockwood» and... don't those things run on mini-nuke reactors? >:>
«Random_Nerd» Do you /want/ it to?
«Angelo» would be cooool!
«Verithe» Hmmm...an Excrucian shard was found with them once. Perhaps they know something important. We could try to get John to give us an audience with them sometime.
«BethE» That could make for a nice mini-episode.
«Knockwood» John's mad at me about that...
«BethE» And I don't think that we should make a roboclone of John. If someone nasty comes in, demanding to see our leader, we a) tell them about Monty our secretary, b) tell them about Kudzu our boss and c) ask whether they would like to leave a message.
«Random_Nerd» Should we go in-character?
«Knockwood» OK
=-= Knockwood is now known as DanteE
«Verithe» Dive!
=-= Verithe is now known as Kite
=-= YOU are now known as Ftisk
«Random_Nerd» __________START___________
=-= Lazarus is now known as Brian
«Random_Nerd» (Do you want to be planning the meeting with the Imperator, or hop right in?)
«DanteE» (Should we boost John's defenses first?)
=-= BethE is now known as Theresa
«Theresa» (I suggest talk to John, maybe get a meeting with the Treasures, work our way to the Imperator meeting.)
«Random_Nerd» (That works)
«Theresa» (Maybe the fact that we're bringing our human along to the Big Meeting with help with that meeting.)
«DanteE» (Is John immune to DA?)
«Ftisk» (not sure that will help)
«Random_Nerd» (I believe you've used miracles to strengthen him, and Sam's tried to give him a bit of resistance training.)
«Random_Nerd» John, walking along his desk: "So, what do I need to do, to prepare for this diplomatic mission?"
«Random_Nerd» John: "For that matter, what should I wear? Three piece suit? Priestly robes? The skins of my enemies?"
«Ftisk» "Casual robes?"
«Theresa» "Well..you've met Lord Kudzu. Imagine hanging out with more beings of his...immensity. Along with a version from the other side of the Wall who may or may not try to kill everyone."
«Kite» "What do you normally wear on diplomatic meetings."
«Random_Nerd» John: "Casual... robes."
«Kite» ?
«Ftisk» "I will take my dragonTisk suit"
«Theresa» "Sam might be the best fashion judge."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I can have some patterns sent to your tailor!"
«Brian» "I suspect that, largely, they won't take notice of what we wear. Unless Fashion happens to be there, of course"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "That reminds me. You guys, where do you get your clothes? Has William worked something out for you, or do you make your own with magical magic?"
«Kite» "We should not invite Fashion."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Indeed. We'd never get the bloodstains out."

  • Kite gives same a "Really?" look

«DanteE» (I pretty much Guise myself...)
«Ftisk» "I just shape myself as suit me :-)"
«Random_Nerd» (...into looking like you're wearing pants?)
=-= YOU are now known as dragonTisk
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Shapeshifting is /cheating/»"

  • dragonTisk pout at Sam

«Random_Nerd» John: "I imagine it would make maintaining a wardrobe difficult, though."
«Kite» "Not when you're a shapeshifting robosnail or bird."
«Brian» "I either walk into a shop and they're all fawning over themselves to clothe me, or if I want specific textiles, I ask T. Because they're most often plant-based textiles."
«DanteE» "Except for the pants.
«dragonTisk» "John, wanna be shapeshifted to somethng? eh eh?"
«DanteE» "Marvel has shown us that purple pants can stretch to any size they need to."
«Random_Nerd» John: "No, please. Nothing that drastic. I don't know what changes in me would make problems with the Treasures."
«Theresa» (Dante always guises pants since Ftisk was his pants.)
«Kite» (Hehe)
«dragonTisk» "A flying cow? A sad clown? A cute aunt? Came on would be fuuuuuuuun!"
«Theresa» "Can the Treasures talk to us? In a way that we could understand?"
«DanteE» (Plus, the Aides have emergency pants, presumably for all of us.)
«Theresa» "And I...buy my clothes off the rack when I don't create them myself."
«Random_Nerd» John: "I don't know. They don't talk to me."
«dragonTisk» "But! But you chant/sacerdotize to them! How impolite that they don’t reply! "
«Kite» "We could send in a note saying they're allowed to, if they need to."
«Random_Nerd» Sam, to Theresa: "Let me see what I can set up. You should at least have tailored stuff, even though you don't need special anti-Hell veils or whatever."
«Random_Nerd» John: "I work for them, they don't work for me."
«Kite» "What makes the veils anti-Hell?"

  • Theresa smiles. "Thank you, Sam. I'm afraid I've never been one for knowing the right fashion. Being a kindergarden teacher, you tend to go for clothes that are easy to clean and able to handle fingerpaint."

«DanteE» "Considering Theresa can make clothing with a thought..."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Well, if you wear them, when you die? You don't go to Hell. There are Nobles for whom this is a desirable trait."
«Random_Nerd» Sam, to Dante: "Ah, but being the master of conjuring up fabric does not make one an expert on how clothing should be shaped."
«Kite» "Hrmmm... "
«dragonTisk» "... Sam have a point.."
«DanteE» "Good point."
«Kite» "/I'll/ put it together!"
«Kite» "The clothings!"
«Kite» "The outfit!"
«Kite» "ME!"
«dragonTisk» "Way to go Kite!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam looks to Brian for confirmation.
«Theresa» "I..usually go low on the shiny in my clothing, Kite..."

  • Kite assembles a ruby-studded suit.

«Kite» "What?"
«Brian» "Kite, no sequins."
«Random_Nerd» (HERESY!)
«Brian» (what's Sam looking at me for, btw?)
«Kite» "That...what?"
«Random_Nerd» (To know whether you want him to go along with Kite's idea.)
«DanteE» (Hm... how much would my or John's presence be affected if we were dressed like Fat Elvis...)
«Brian» (ah. Well, then.)
«Theresa» (Because you Anchored him, Brian. You determine how much he helps other Nobles, especially outside of Family.)
«Brian» "Rhinestones and sequins do /not/ belong together, no matter how the shiny on the shiny so you can shiny while you shiny looks."
«Brian» "Sam ... my helpless Familia needs your help!"
«Theresa» "Then Kite would go with holograms. And you didn't say anything about glitter..."
«Kite» "These are not rhinestones or sequins. They are /rubies/."
«Brian» "Call a camera crew, by the way. We've got the next big hit on our hands - How to Dress Like A Noble."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I think we will need to arrange for a Style Consultant, before the big meeting."
«Theresa» "Kite, I would love it if you could do an outfit for me. I think gemstones should be more for eveningwear for me, however."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I can arrange with the Aides to have one brought in."
«Kite» "Oh...gemstones are eveningwear...huh. Well, whaddaya know."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Because earlier in the day they'd be just /too/ shiny."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "'Cos, sun."
«Kite» "Did you need eveningwear then, Theresa?"
«Kite» "..."
«Kite» "That doesn't make any sense, Sam."

  • dragonTisk nod at Kite

«DanteE» "Kite, bouncing sun rays into people's retinas tends to be looked upon as a diplomatic faux pas"
«Kite» "Well, okay."
«Kite» "I guess that sounds something like a good point."
«Kite» "Even if it also sounds like craziness."
«DanteE» (And, technically, we should be planning our outfits based on that one supplement)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Although... do Excrucians /have/ retinas?"
«Theresa» "Depending on when this meeting is, yes, Kite. But we can plan out my outfit later."  :)
«Theresa» "Sam, if they want to."
«dragonTisk» "Yes I thing they have"
«Kite» "Maybe the stars are retina-equivalent."
«Brian» "Once they're in Creation, they'll have Creationy bodies"
«Kite» "Alright, Theresa."

  • dragonTisk nod at Brian

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Is that how it works?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I was never quite clear on that."
«dragonTisk» "Our roof , our rules"
«DanteE» (Is that how it works? Do they make bodies on this side of the wall?)
«Random_Nerd» (Yeah.)
«Random_Nerd» (Which is why they're made of matter and have shapes and so on.)
«DanteE» (... that would mean there's a transition phase after they come through the wall but before they embody)
«Random_Nerd» (Maybe.)
«Random_Nerd» (Or maybe the bodies just show up because nature abhors a vaccuum, or maybe whatever they are immediately transforms when the get inside.)
«Brian» "It's not clear if they make their bodies here or if they transmute through passage, or what. But since we'll be on a Creationy pocket dimension, even if it's wibbly wobbly creationy, Creation should rule the physical rules."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Okay."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Let's see. Martyrs said you were bringing John, correct?"
«DanteE» (Wasn't Sam in the room when we were talking about that?)
«Random_Nerd» (Yeah, he's just doing a conversation segue.)
«Kite» (That's polite of him.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, this is something I know about. The standard protections work along the lines of protection from physical injuries, mental injuries, changes of shape or nature, and deprivation of heat, air, and so on."
«Theresa» "Indeed. Hence the fashion discussion."
«Brian» ("oh look, a segue")
«Brian» (alternately: "speaking of segues...")
«dragonTisk» (What a segue is?)
«Random_Nerd» (A change of topic, introduced in such a way as to make it seem at least somewhat natural.)
«dragonTisk» (thank RN)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Now, we don't /expect/ the Warmains to attack. And if they do, nothing you could easily do would just stop them cold."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But at the least, you can protect him from minor or inadvertent harms, and keep him closest to the door."
«DanteE» "Ah, well, right now we're getting ready to meet Martyr's boss.
«DanteE» "The Summit is apparently a ways in the future."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Okay. You're not bringing John, right?"
«Theresa» "I wouldn't want to do anything to hurt John's conversations with the Treasures."
«DanteE» (Oops, did he not want to come meet Martyrs' boss?)
«dragonTisk» (I understand the Marthyrs and John talk to M boss)
«Kite» "John. We are confused. Were you coming with us to meet Martyrs' boss as well?"
«Random_Nerd» John: "You tell me."
«DanteE» (Kite. We're _always_ confused. :) )
«dragonTisk» "Is trademarkable as our sign being confused?"
«Kite» "..."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I can see arguments for both sides... but I suggest against bringing him."
«Theresa» "I..don't think so, Ftisk."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Martyrs would like it, but you've already sold her on the idea."
«dragonTisk» "Okie dokie"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "And never bring a human to a Dark meeting."
«Kite» "So it wasn't part of the arrangement?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "It... complicates... things."
«Random_Nerd» (As I recall it, Martyrs wants you to bring John to the actual meeting with the Excrucians, but not the one with her Imperator.)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Not that the Magister would kill him, or even hurt him."
«Kite» "Would giving him a telecommunications device be a bad idea?"
«Kite» (alright)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But he would... distract... it. It would be like bringing a man made of diamonds to meet with Kite."
«Kite» "Where?"
«dragonTisk» "cool example..."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Cell phones are /always/ a bad idea. You kids and your social networking..."

  • Kite looks around.

«Theresa» (Hee! ^^ )
=-= YOU are now known as diamondTisk
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "The man made of diamonds isn't here... he had to... oh, hey!"
«diamondTisk» "Here!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam points.
«Kite» "I know nothing about this social networking. I'm just..."

  • Kite hugs Ftisk.

«DanteE» to John: "Ahem. Anyway... just how much do you want to be in the loop?"

  • diamondTisk counter hug Kite

«diamondTisk» "Anyone wanna share the _love_ ?"
«Random_Nerd» John: "Well, if I'm to be a meaningful part of this, I need to know a lot more background. About the... Excrucians, and these ones in particular. About the War."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "William and I can help you with that."

  • Kite is now dead to this conversation.

«Theresa» "Sam, do the Aides have a pamphlet or small novel about the War?"
«DanteE» "Did Martyrs tell you about the philosophy of the Dark?"
«Random_Nerd» John: "A lot. I still don't fully get it."
«Random_Nerd» John: "I gather if you're a Noble, or at least the right kind, it just makes sense."
«Brian» "They're a little weird."
«Random_Nerd» J: "But I can get the what, but not the why, of it."
«DanteE» "It's the flip side of Darwinism, really."
«Theresa» "It's..a part of you. How you feel, how you think. It's your..Code."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I'll get him a copy of So You've Been Ennobled."
«Brian» "Humanity must be saved, and the only way to save humanity is for there to BE no humanity. Kind of."
«DanteE» "Sam is the one who can help you the best."
=-= YOU are now known as dragonTisk
«dragonTisk» ".. and the diamond man is no more here"
«Random_Nerd» John: "I gather a lot of it's about freedom. But not the same kind of freedom that you talk about."

  • Kite sighs

«Kite» (Oh yeah, 3e Wild isn't about the freedoms as much anymore. I forgot.)
«Random_Nerd» John: "But, okay. So, you go on the meeting, I study up on the War?"
«Random_Nerd» (It is, just in a slightly different way.)
«Theresa» "Sounds like it. And if you could ask the Treasures' permission for us to..enhance you, we would appreciate it."
«Kite» "We can give you a recording of the meeting when it's over, if you like."
«DanteE» "Good idea."
«Kite» "If anything mind-breaking happens, we'll edit that out."
«Random_Nerd» (In-character, the slight change in emphasis in the Wild is because the Estate of The Law Of One's Nature now exists in Creation again!)
«Random_Nerd» John: "I can ask them, the next time I'm there to do the ceremonies. I can't say they will... but I can't say they /won't/, either."
«Kite» (Ooh!)
«Theresa» "I would just like to let them know first so that they can voice their displeasure if they disagree. Amyra's care comes first."
«DanteE» "When's the last time they talked to you?"
«Random_Nerd» (The advantage of basing game ideas on Hitherby Dragons is that sometimes, when a new book comes out, the stuff just fits.)
«Random_Nerd» John: "Talked to me? Never, that I heard. I saw some of them move, that one time the... Strategist. That it came in."
«Random_Nerd» John: "But I do talk to them."
«DanteE» "Ah, that. Any other ... effects from that?"
«Random_Nerd» John: "Like a gardener with his plants, really."
«Random_Nerd» J: "Since then, they seem... a little more keyed up. More awake. I can't explain it any better than that."
«Random_Nerd» J: "But like they're watching."
«DanteE» "Hm. That could be from the enChanceling, from the Age End... (or from me...)"

  • Theresa beams at John and his analogy.

«Random_Nerd» J: "I don't know. But maybe it means they'll do something, if I ask."
«DanteE» "You know, one thing I've always wondered, even before I was Noble...
«DanteE» "Under what circumstances would you actually _use_ anything in there?"
«Random_Nerd» J: "Use?"
«Random_Nerd» J: "I don't understand."
«DanteE» "Wield the spear, bring out the Ark, wave Aaron's Rod around, that kind of thing."
«Kite» (This bird outside just sounded like the saddest squeaky dog toy...)
«Random_Nerd» J: "Not... that's not how we do it. We don't look after them because they might come in handy. But because they're /important/. I mean, that's the /actual Holy Grail/ in there. And that /means/ something."
«dragonTisk» "that is a _strange_ way to look at artifacts"
«Theresa» (..I want to hear this birdie.)
«Theresa» "Not really. If they are to be used, they decide that, not us. Using the Spear wrong brings destruction to the land."
«Random_Nerd» J: "I mean, do you protect Blades because they're so handy? Or because they're an important part of the world, and you were put in charge of looking after them?"
«dragonTisk» "I'm machinery not blades but, ok make sort of sense"
«Random_Nerd» (That was to Dante.)
«dragonTisk» (jep but Ftisk can't keep his mounth shut :-P )
«DanteE» "Hm."
«DanteE» (He knows the World May Be Ending, right?)
«Theresa» (Yes. So?  :) )
«Theresa» (Err, I mean, if that's your point, that the world may be ending, so use them, So might be his answer.)
«Random_Nerd» (Yeah. His point of view is that his job isn't to keep the world from ending. That's /your/ job. His job is to look after the Treasures and the kingdom.)
«DanteE» "... maybe you could ask them if they want to be used. Or should be used.
«DanteE» "Next time you talk to them, of course."
«Random_Nerd» J: "I can ask."
«Random_Nerd» J: "No promises on the results."
«DanteE» "If you would."
«Theresa» "No promises wanted." *smile*
«DanteE» (Don't forget I have a 'Dante, Lord of Amyra' branch on my Destiny map.)
«Random_Nerd» (Hmm. Call that a Victory or a Failure when he tries it, then, depending on the results.)
«DanteE» "In any case, we apparently need to get Ymera-meeting outfits."
«Kite» "We do?"

  • DanteE still dresses like a college student, except for the hat.

«DanteE» "Well, you don't.
«Kite» (come to think of it, I only really know how Ftisk looks.)
«DanteE» "It's tough to put a suit on wings."
«Kite» "Well, I..."

  • Kite becomes human.

«dragonTisk» (Ftisk is fluid on his look.. emotion affect it and stuff :-) )
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "This is why I really need to get a Noble-grade tailor in here."
=-= Kite is now known as humanoKite
«humanoKite» "My human form comes with a suit."
«Brian» "We should do that, Sam."
«DanteE» "As long as they can keep quiet about _why_ we want suits."
«humanoKite» "For meetings?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Because suits are cool."
«Theresa» "Because we want to look snazzy?"

  • dragonTisk nod nod at Theresa

«humanoKite» "Are meetings and coolness and snazziness secret things?"
«Theresa» (What is Sam's opinion on pinstripe suits where the pinstripes are diamonds?)
«DanteE» (You'd distract Kite)
«humanoKite» "Also, if no one is going to wear this ruby suit, I'm taking it to my nest."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I'll take it!"
=-= YOU are now known as ligerTisk
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Uh, unless anyone else wants it."
«humanoKite» "Oh, Sam!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I'll shut up now."
«ligerTisk» (liger = rear quarter of a tiger, front of a lion, scorpio sting)

  • ligerTisk roar

«DanteE» (We have a couple RL ligers in a zoo north of town--lion/tiger mixes)
«Theresa» (Darn it, I'm imagining Kite as Rarity from My Little Pony...)
«ligerTisk» (oh! Never know that liger really exist. Have to look at them in google. Then subst my description with the real one)
«humanoKite» (his coloring is similar...)
«DanteE» (and we've spent most of this session talking about our dresses for the Grand Godling Gala, as well.)
«Theresa» (I _have_ to get Kite a fainting couch now..)
«Random_Nerd» (They're friggin' /huge/, I know that.)
«Theresa» (They will Love Me!)
«humanoKite» (haha)
«Random_Nerd» (I once went over a law on how high a fence to keep ligers in had to be.)
«Random_Nerd» (http://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/animals/graphics/liger4.jpg)
«ligerTisk» (wow they are big!)
«Random_Nerd» (Indeed!)
«humanoKite» (I forget...are they bigger than both lions and tigers?)
«Random_Nerd» (Yes.)
«DanteE» (well, tigers are the biggest cats)
«Random_Nerd» (Ligers are bigger than tigers. Some genetic weirdness of how the hybrid thing works.)
«Random_Nerd» (So!)
«Theresa» (Kiiitty!)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "So, you're going to be talking to a Magister of the Dark. Will this be your first one?"
«humanoKite» (suddenly Ftisk is much bigger than usual!)
«humanoKite» (Crowded room is crowded!)
«ligerTisk» (indeed)
«DanteE» "Magister, yes."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "They can be tricky. In some ways, they're much more human than even the Lightlords, although never tell them that."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But the thing they love best, at least if they see you as human, is to listen to your terrible plan, encourage you all the way, and then watch as you set your internal organs on fire because you didn't get the details right."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "This is kinda a good thing. Because we want him to be part of a plan, and it's a... creative... plan."
«DanteE» "As long as he doesn't go out of his way to facilitate a failure.
«DanteE» "We can do that ourselves."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "They won't actively sabotage you."
«Theresa» "Ah. So, the perfect being to invite to our meeting as long as we supply popcorn?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "But they might... not help you, at a time that maybe you were counting on it."
«ligerTisk» "Yeah, we are good at sabotage ourselves"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Now, these are just general principles. Every darklord is different. They're people, after all."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Still, watch out for that."
«DanteE» "Can we get him to promise to attend?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Try."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "You've got Martyrs on your side. That'll help."

  • ligerTisk nod nod

«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Still, I see two ways you can play this."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "First, you can play it as a genuinely good idea that they'll want to be part of. Tougher sell, but makes them less likely to drop out."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Second, it's a terrible plan that you're determined to implement. Easier sell, but he might do the Stupid Dark Trick."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Not my call on which you do, but you should probably settle on one or the other."
«humanoKite» "Stupid Dark Trick?"
«Theresa» "Well, if it's just 'don't do something there when we need him to', that might be easier to put up with."
«Theresa» (The "�10 �01Sam: "But they might... not help you, at a time that maybe you were counting on it." ")
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "The thing where when you're all the way up the ladder that he's holding, he suddenly remembers that he left the iron on at home."
«humanoKite» "Right."
«DanteE» "OK, which approach do we use?
«humanoKite» "Ideally, the well-thought-out plan."
«DanteE» "Be a shame to disappoint him by having him expect a fiasco and have it work, though."
«Theresa» "I think I can live with it, though."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "He'll never see it coming."
«humanoKite» "That's why we don't present it as stupid or that we have no idea what we are doing."
«ligerTisk» "I vote for the fiasco.. we have our base covered in case it will fiasco-ed"
«DanteE» "If it does become a fiasco, what exactly would he do?"
«humanoKite» "If he is invested in a success, though, that would be helpful."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "If it looks like a terrible plan, he might withdraw his support when you need it, just to see what happens. And if you pull it off anyway? He'll be the first to congratulate you. But if you don't, he won't even feel bad. You got your shot to do things your way, so you went out on your terms."
«humanoKite» "So...like cheering the warrior for dying in battle?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Yeah. For him, the important thing is that you did your crazy bullshit thing. If it works, if it doesn't... that's not the point."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Oh, one other thing. If you want to avoid him pulling out... it would help if he didn't see you as human."
«Theresa» "So, very 'shine on, you crazy Noble'?"
«DanteE» (Does that mean we should wait until we know the summit is happening?)
«Brian» "We're not human. Not anymore."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Because all that stuff I told you? It only applies to humans. A bunch of dionyl want to do something dumb? Dark doesn't care."

  • Theresa waves my still denuded arm at Sam. "Does this count?"

«ligerTisk» "I .... I _never_ been human ^^)
«humanoKite» "So...no human shape to the meeting. Right."
«DanteE» (Urk... maybe Ftisk should lead, then?)
=-= humanoKite is now known as Kite
=-= YOU are now known as dragonTisk
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Not just human shape. Don't look like something a human would have designed, either."

  • Kite shrinks back into a bird.

«dragonTisk» "Is this ok?"
«Random_Nerd» (Is it like a normal dragon, or like the somewhat-weird Conrad-dragon?)
«dragonTisk» (is the conradDragon of course!)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "That's good. That's... Excrucian work, isn't it?"
«dragonTisk» "Yep one of Conrad shapes"
«Random_Nerd» (Described earlier as...)
«DanteE» (can you do baby purple dragon? :P )
«Random_Nerd» (Like a cross between a dragon and a praying mantis, really. Big faceted eyes, long forelimbs. Batlike wings. A really mixed-up-looking creature.)
«dragonTisk» (yep yep that one!)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "That may make him uncomfortable, but that kinda works in your favor."
«DanteE» "So, we're going to try to sell him on this plan based on its merit?"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "And, hey, it's a trophy from a fight you won against the Enemy."
«dragonTisk» "Yeah!"
«Theresa» "I'm..kinda used to a human shape, even when I'm a tree."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Then don't make it look like it's /your/ plan, if you think he'll see you as human."
«DanteE» "I'm out of luck, blades are human designs..."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Unless you go with Plan Stupid Plan."
«Kite» "Look like Courage."
«dragonTisk» "Good idea Kite!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam, muttering: "What makes the muskrat guard his musk?"
«Theresa» "I'm all for Stupid Plan. My miracles for Stupid Plan!"
«Theresa» (In the dusky dusk?)
«Brian» "..."
«Theresa» "Mostly because I feel that the longer I stay as a tree, it's sometimes hard to come back to...moving again."
«DanteE» "You heard Sam, if we go that route he may bail when we need him."
«Theresa» "But what were we needing him to do besides show up? If he doesn't come, he can't see the stupid in person. And if he doesn't help when the chips are down, we have how many other Imperators?"
«Theresa» (Or this could just be the RL headache talking...)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "I mean, if you get it so you only need his support for a little bit, and he doesn't know this, then it doesn't matter if he bails later on."
«Brian» "Pretty much long as he shows up, it's all good."
«Brian» "So we need to make it highly entertaining for him."
«Kite» "His presence is really all the support we need, I think."
«Theresa» "Then let's be shiny and entertaining!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Operation Stupid Plan, then?"
«DanteE» "Not stupid...
«dragonTisk» "Yeah, we need him to give a look of respectability to the meeting, but if he go away later don't matter"
«DanteE» "Operation Entertaining Spectacle.
«dragonTisk» "We can rent some clowns then"
«DanteE» "As a bonus that may help with others as well."
«Theresa» (My Buffy game often has stupid plans. Better than no plan. My games are becoming type-cast...)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "No! Remember, /you/ don't know it's a stupid plan!"
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "You think it's /perfect/. It's just that he is so very clever that he sees through you."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Imperators... I don't care /which/ type... they love it when they think they're smarter than you."
«Theresa» "Ah. Then we act normal and just be ready for him to bail on us."
«DanteE» "... we've already benefited from that mindset, haven't we."
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Look! A monkey!"
«DanteE» (and that would mean I can't lead due to Honesty)
«Random_Nerd» Sam: "Ah, it was just a trick of the light."
«Random_Nerd» (But Dante /does/ think it's a good plan, doesn't he?)
«DanteE» (Yeah, but we need them to think it's a stupid plan)
«DanteE» (Wait. Dante knows psychology. That ought to be of use... maybe.)
«Random_Nerd» (And Darklords are close enough to human that that stuff works on them.)
«Kite» (We don't need him to think it's stupid, do we?)
«Random_Nerd» (Depends which approach you take.)
«Random_Nerd» (If you do Operation Stupid Plan, you want him to think it's a dumb idea but you don't realize it. If you want to do Operation Brilliant Strategy, you want him to think it's genuinely a good idea.)
«Kite» (It just doesn't matter as much for us, so long as he's there. If he wants to continue supporting us, great! If not, oh well!)
«dragonTisk» (seconded kite)
«DanteE» (Or we can just present the plan and improvise from there)
«Kite» (I think we just need to focus on having a plan that we think works. The Imperator will figure out how he feels.)
«dragonTisk» (we are too demon boxing this, we can't go wrong with the plan, in each case we win, I believe)
«Theresa» (I agree with Kite's last thing.)
«Random_Nerd» (So, Operation Third Option. You present your idea, as well as you can. If he buys it, cool, if he doesn't, he's probably still in your corner for a while.)
«Random_Nerd» (Only problem is, you don't know which category you're in.)
«Random_Nerd» (But that's the plan?)
«Kite» (yup!)
«dragonTisk» (yep)
«Brian» (yep)
«Kite» (Would we know what corner we were in, anyway?)
«dragonTisk» (we can guess)
«DanteE» (ayup)
«DanteE» (Though Dante would use his psych skill to figure out how he's thinking)
«Random_Nerd» _____________STOP____________________
«Kite» (ooh!)
=-= Kite is now known as Verithe
=-= YOU are now known as Angelo
«Random_Nerd» Okay, I'm too under the weather to actually do the big scene.
«Random_Nerd» But it looks like you have a plan.
«Angelo» no problem, was fun
«Verithe» That's fine.
«Angelo» and to Ftisk don't matter how thing go he want to have fun ...
=-= Theresa is now known as BethE
«BethE» Issa plan.
«Angelo» and go outside to do a picnic with Vassa
=-= Brian is now known as Lazarus
«Lazarus» hey, we have an actual plan for once :)
«Angelo» yeah, is a nice change of pace
«Angelo» :-P
«DanteE» That's a plan? :)
«Angelo» yep ... more than usual
=-= DanteE is now known as Knockwood
«BethE» Hey V, does Kite have Kamina sunglasses?
«Verithe» Conceivably, in his nest. But not anything that's already been determined.
«BethE» I think they would be perfectly shiny for him. ^^
«Verithe» Hehe
«Random_Nerd» Sam might. It's the kind of Earth-media that he'd go for.
«Knockwood» Which supplement has the various clothing & symbol accoutrements and what they mean?
«Knockwood» It was before V3, I think
«Random_Nerd» Creatures Clothed in Strangeness.
«Verithe» Creatures Clothed in...yeah
«Knockwood» of course
«Knockwood» Should we decide exactly how we're playing dress-up? :)
«Random_Nerd» If you want.
«Random_Nerd» If not, we can handwave it, that you're dressed in a way that would be seen as acceptable in a nonspecific way.
«Verithe» Kite might wear a necklace that was originally meant to be a bracelet or something like that.
«Angelo» I don't mind if we handwave dresses
«Random_Nerd» So, see you next week?
«Random_Nerd» Read Creatures Clothed if you want to, if not, that's fine.
«Knockwood» Well, Chuubo next week.
«Knockwood» Assuming you get better
«Random_Nerd» IF you wish.
«Angelo» yep next week
«Verithe» See you next week!
«Random_Nerd» Well, at least the plan here is all written out.
«Knockwood» and don't get sidelined by exams
«Angelo» bye RN!
«Random_Nerd» So we won't forget it.
«Verithe» Study....Scenes for Chuubos?
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«Knockwood» Don't forget we're also evaluating the rules
«Random_Nerd» Yes.
«Knockwood» so, yeah, we should look over Scenes
«Angelo» ok, I too go. HAve a great night/day guys! :-)
«Knockwood» cya Angelo
«Random_Nerd» Later, guys.
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«Knockwood» BTW, is the thing with the Treasures going to go anywhere?
«Knockwood» oops
«Knockwood» oh well. See you guys next week.
«Verithe» Only if we make it so.
«Knockwood» Feel better soon, Beth
«Verithe» Take care!
«Knockwood» RN too.
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«BethE» Thanks.  :) And RN's still got a couple of weeks before finals.  :) Then we might take some vacation time for graduation.
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