Editing Midnight RPG - Notes on Zal's Becoming (section)

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> What about when summoned?
> Do they form a new body?  Or have to possess something when beign summoned?

They don't have to possess something when summoned.  You're right, the magic
of the spell forms the body.  The distinction is that the outsider isn't
capable of forming the body on its own.  The outsider doesn't form it, the
magic of the spell does.

> But my question is how would any character "know" what that
> vulnerability IS unless they just test it? For example - I haven't
> ever rolled for Zal's vulnerability...  When I do, does HE know what
> it is?  How would anyone else know?

Eh.  Re-read the rules and come up with something.  But it shouldn't be as
hard as finding out a truename or where someone last left their car keys.  I
imagine that there's going to be some clues whether the outsider likes it or
not.  Like, an outsider with vulnerability to cold iron might have little
patches of scales in various places that seem to refract a rainbow when
light hits it right.  If you know something about the creatures (skill
check) then you'd know that the scales mean a vulnerability to cold iron.

The skill rolls and such are an abstraction that make it possible to
determine a vulnerability ON THE FLY.  I think it's totally valid to say
this doesn't apply to a PC, and it'll be a little harder to get Zal's
vulnerability - but when we encounter succubi, there aught to be a way for
the four of us to determine a vul. during a first-encounter fight.

-Bill



---------- Original Message -----------
From: kevin perrine <kevperrine@yahoo.com>
To: bill@wiltfong.net, steve powell <spowell1632@gmail.com>
Cc: "A. White" <stoobley@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:38:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Zal's evilness and Heroic Paths

> >
> > Kevin, read this:
> > http://darknessfalls.leaderdesslok.com/world_creatures-trapped.htm
> >
>
> I've read all that from the Midnight core book earlier today.  I'm
> just having a hard time deciphering since I don't have the lexicon
> in my head... Plus I'm sorta sick today.  ugh...
>
> > However, he can NEVER just "reform."  Outsiders possess, they
don't "form"
> > anything.
>
> What about when summoned?
> Do they form a new body?  Or have to possess something when beign summoned?
>
> I thought if summoned they just appear, with the mage forming their body.
>
> > One thing I need to be clear on is that there is NO SUCH THING as
a "normal"
> > vulnerability.  ALL outsiders have RANDOM vulnerabilities.  A demon might
> > actually be vulnerable to fire.  Or bone.  You never know just by
looking at
> > the thing.  So it shouldn't necessarily be as hard as finding a hidden
> > treasure for every creature we face.  I think that's why there are so
many
> > options for finding the vulnerability - otherwise no outsider would ever
die.
> >
>
> But my question is how would any character "know" what that
> vulnerability IS unless they just test it? For example - I haven't
> ever rolled for Zal's vulnerability...  When I do, does HE know what
> it is?  How would anyone else know?
>
> > However, Knowledge (spirits) MIGHT work, simply because Kyuad has been
> > observing Zal for some time, and that's probably the most appropriate
skill to
> > represent an inference based on how Zal has subconsciously responded to
> > various things in his surroundings, and how Kyuad would filter that
through
> > his knowledge of trapped spirits in general.  But yeah, it's up to you.
> >
>
> Oh... you see - I can understand that.
> Good definition.
>
> thanks
> -kev-
>
>