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rising quickly from squad leader, to platoon leader to company leader, rumours abounded that he was being groomed to become a possible district commander - possibly even the land where the people lived (though he never realized this promise would never be fulfilled, it just doesn't make business sense for a local commander to command a district. too much room for rebellion with that setup). all the soldiers serving under him loved him not because he was an easy commander, but because he was a fair commander, and was a superior tactician. You simply had a better chance to live when commanded by Thunder than with any other commander. | rising quickly from squad leader, to platoon leader to company leader, rumours abounded that he was being groomed to become a possible district commander - possibly even the land where the people lived (though he never realized this promise would never be fulfilled, it just doesn't make business sense for a local commander to command a district. too much room for rebellion with that setup). all the soldiers serving under him loved him not because he was an easy commander, but because he was a fair commander, and was a superior tactician. You simply had a better chance to live when commanded by Thunder than with any other commander. | ||
− | The Proverbial straw that broke the camels back came during the campaign to suppress the northern rebellion. Leading 500 men, Thunder was ordered to take a heavily fortified town at all cost, and then execute all women and children as retribution for an ambush on a pilgrim caravan that happened a fortnight earlier. rumours abounded that the ambush was staged, that neither pilgrim nor rebels were involved and that this was just a pretext to commit genocide on a national level. Tactically assessing the fortified town, Thunder also realized that 500 men, while theoretically sufficient to take the town, the cost to his own men was too high, estimated at 90% losses. Seeing that his men | + | The Proverbial straw that broke the camels back came during the campaign to suppress the northern rebellion. Leading 500 men, Thunder was ordered to take a heavily fortified town at all cost, and then execute all women and children as retribution for an ambush on a pilgrim caravan that happened a fortnight earlier. rumours abounded that the ambush was staged, that neither pilgrim nor rebels were involved and that this was just a pretext to commit genocide on a national level. Tactically assessing the fortified town, Thunder also realized that 500 men, while theoretically sufficient to take the town, the cost to his own men was too high, estimated at 90% losses. Seeing that his men emphasized with these rebels, knowing that this "ambush" was just a pretext for legal genocide and disgusted in his leaderships lack of regard for his men’s welfare, Thunder decided at that point to desert en-mass with his men, lead them back to the land to be free. Knowing that he would put everyone in jeopardy with this plan, he asked his men if this was what they wanted. With a rousing cry, it was settled - free at last, but outlaw, deserter, and wanted. |
Quietly returning to his village, Thunder discovered that much had changed during his years away. | Quietly returning to his village, Thunder discovered that much had changed during his years away. | ||
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:*Please don't change the name, I like it just the way it is. | :*Please don't change the name, I like it just the way it is. | ||
− | :: Not changing the name, just adding his amairindian 'real name' to it --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09: | + | :: Not changing the name, just adding his amairindian 'real name' to it --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09:58, 25 August 2006 (PDT) |
*The press gang's offer should be phrased more like this: Either you become an employee soldier for us, or we send you to the slave pits as property. Serve us willingly and we pay you or serve us unwillingly and we won't, but either way you WILL serve us. The standard "employment contract" would be 20 years, but it would be renewable at the discretion of the Authority. Membership in the Authority (the equivalent of citzenship) I'm thinking should not be explicitly on the table, but COULD be possible, more of a carrot for good service; maybe the Chairman-Dictator can hand out a small number of memberships each year. The Authority probably does this to all the surrounding groups, forming "Employee Regiments" from all over the place, and probably mixes them up; Thunder would have served with fellow soldiers from a number of different cultures, not just the People. In fact, the only caveat on Employee Regiments is that they NEVER serve in their own home lands; they only serve elsewhere. This also allows the Authority to fight a rebellion in one place with the possible rebels from another place, and commit few of their own people to the actual fight. This is like the British using troops from India to fight in the Boxer Rebellion in China. | *The press gang's offer should be phrased more like this: Either you become an employee soldier for us, or we send you to the slave pits as property. Serve us willingly and we pay you or serve us unwillingly and we won't, but either way you WILL serve us. The standard "employment contract" would be 20 years, but it would be renewable at the discretion of the Authority. Membership in the Authority (the equivalent of citzenship) I'm thinking should not be explicitly on the table, but COULD be possible, more of a carrot for good service; maybe the Chairman-Dictator can hand out a small number of memberships each year. The Authority probably does this to all the surrounding groups, forming "Employee Regiments" from all over the place, and probably mixes them up; Thunder would have served with fellow soldiers from a number of different cultures, not just the People. In fact, the only caveat on Employee Regiments is that they NEVER serve in their own home lands; they only serve elsewhere. This also allows the Authority to fight a rebellion in one place with the possible rebels from another place, and commit few of their own people to the actual fight. This is like the British using troops from India to fight in the Boxer Rebellion in China. | ||
*I'm thinking the desertion en-masse is a bit much, given the mixture of cultures. The Authority does not encourage sympathy among its employee regiments. But more importantly, what happened to the other soldiers? I suggest the following alternative; faced with the possible destruction of his entire unit in the process of genocide, Thunder led a mutiny against the senior officers, with the intent of leading the men into the wilderness to the North of the Authority (perhaps eventually returning to his own lands). The mutiny was successful, briefly, but then the Authority moved in several Banner regiments, who crushed the mutiny (the Authority carefully makes sure its member troops are better equipped than the employees), and Thunder barely escaped with his own life. | *I'm thinking the desertion en-masse is a bit much, given the mixture of cultures. The Authority does not encourage sympathy among its employee regiments. But more importantly, what happened to the other soldiers? I suggest the following alternative; faced with the possible destruction of his entire unit in the process of genocide, Thunder led a mutiny against the senior officers, with the intent of leading the men into the wilderness to the North of the Authority (perhaps eventually returning to his own lands). The mutiny was successful, briefly, but then the Authority moved in several Banner regiments, who crushed the mutiny (the Authority carefully makes sure its member troops are better equipped than the employees), and Thunder barely escaped with his own life. | ||
− | :: I was sort of playing on the idea that I was commanded to lead a contingent of people from my land. my leadership meant that there were fewer problems with them following orders, and killing captains etc.. I didn't think that Thunder was leading a ragtag band of multi-ethnic soldiers but more like a unified group from the same region. Makes business sense - we know each others customs, can work together, and be more efficient that way, no communication issues etc... Don't mind if it's different, I'll just change things and have him desert/stage a rebellion against his commanding officers with most of his troup getting wiped out as a result. --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09: | + | :: I was sort of playing on the idea that I was commanded to lead a contingent of people from my land. my leadership meant that there were fewer problems with them following orders, and killing captains etc.. I didn't think that Thunder was leading a ragtag band of multi-ethnic soldiers but more like a unified group from the same region. Makes business sense - we know each others customs, can work together, and be more efficient that way, no communication issues etc... Don't mind if it's different, I'll just change things and have him desert/stage a rebellion against his commanding officers with most of his troup getting wiped out as a result. --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09:58, 25 August 2006 (PDT) |
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*An interesting modification; you have the brand of an employee soldier, but not the brand of a PENSIONED or DISCHARGED employee soldier. Therefore, if you are ever captured and someone from the Authority gets a good look at your (name a body part), it will be obvious you are a deserter. You COULD forge the discharge brand, I suppose but I'm going to make you play that out and not let it be in the back story. :) | *An interesting modification; you have the brand of an employee soldier, but not the brand of a PENSIONED or DISCHARGED employee soldier. Therefore, if you are ever captured and someone from the Authority gets a good look at your (name a body part), it will be obvious you are a deserter. You COULD forge the discharge brand, I suppose but I'm going to make you play that out and not let it be in the back story. :) | ||
− | + | :: I really like this, because branding connotates ownership, thus you think you are free, but they still own you, because they can brand you... neat! I say the brands should be around ones neck, as a sort of flesh necklace. each quadrant of ones neck has a signifigance, and it's outlawed to conceal one's branding --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09:58, 25 August 2006 (PDT) | |
− | :: I really like this, because branding connotates ownership, thus you think you are free, but they still own you, because they can brand you... neat! I say the brands should be around ones neck, as a sort of flesh necklace. each quadrant of ones neck has a signifigance, and it's outlawed to conceal one's branding --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09: | ||
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*I'd like to put as much of the last two paragraphs as possible into the game instead of backstory. In other words, instead of saying "Thunder discovered much had changed", I think it would be fun to PLAY OUT Thunder discovering just how much has changed. Backstory isn't as much fun as play. Does that make sense?[[User:Skalchemist|Skalchemist]] 09:27, 25 August 2006 (PDT) | *I'd like to put as much of the last two paragraphs as possible into the game instead of backstory. In other words, instead of saying "Thunder discovered much had changed", I think it would be fun to PLAY OUT Thunder discovering just how much has changed. Backstory isn't as much fun as play. Does that make sense?[[User:Skalchemist|Skalchemist]] 09:27, 25 August 2006 (PDT) | ||
− | :: makes sense. I've modified the last couple of paragraphs slightly... more edits to come to incorporate the more corporate feel of the empire, and to slightly change the desertion. --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09: | + | :: makes sense. I've modified the last couple of paragraphs slightly... more edits to come to incorporate the more corporate feel of the empire, and to slightly change the desertion. --[[User:Jman5000|Jman5000]] 09:58, 25 August 2006 (PDT) |
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