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| − | ==Picture Error in On this day== | + | ===See an Error?=== |
| − | The picture is the USS Phoenix NOT the ARA General Belgrano. [[User:Dabbler|Dabbler]] 00:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::OK I see from the Belgrano article that the Belgrano was originally the Phoenix, but the labelling is still incorrect and confusing and the picture page is not clear that they are one and the same. (I removed an anonymous edit to my first entry). [[User:Dabbler|Dabbler]] 00:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : The bad picture is now gone. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 22:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I'm not a naval expert, but I have never heard of a British warship being described as ''The'' HMS anything. It isn't done and doesn't make any grammatical sense (ie 'The Her/His Majesty's Ship'?). This may be an export from across the water, where I believe it is common[[Link title]][[Link title]][http://www.example.com link title][http://www.example.com link title]
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| − | to use this phraseology (ie 'The United States' Ship' Yada-Yada). It is, in short incorrect- the sentence should read simply ''HMS Conqueror sank the ARA General Belgrano''. I'm not offended by it, but some might be; it might be an idea for someone who can to fix the mistake, although it's no biggie. [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 03:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : That sentence has been completely re-written. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 22:27, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Grammar problem @ ITN==
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| − | *''Immigration reform protests in the United States, sparked by proposed legislation H.R. 4437, continues with the Great American Boycott.
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| − | The "protests" is plural. Could someone take the "s" off "continues" or re-write the sentence, please ? Thanks. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 05:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Done. Thanks for the tip! [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])</sup> 05:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Thank you for fixing it, Titoxd. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 22:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | If some one could fix it up, I'm not sure how. Thanks -[[User:Nekura|Nekura]] 16:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Unless it's a weird grammatical thing that is correct, but just doesn't sound right. Cause I'm no English Major -[[User:Nekura|Nekura]] 19:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Fixed. [[User:RexNL|RexNL]] 20:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I just made the article '''[[Canadian federal budget, 2006]]'''. I think it should be featured on the main page (Really ?), or at least in current events, because it is an ''extremely'' slow news day. I mean, I'm really excited about this cricket championship and some Hundai exec being arrested, but I think this news could squeeze in. [[User:Theonlyedge|Theonlyedge]] 22:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :There are more candidates to fill up ITN waiting at [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]]. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 22:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I posted this on [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]]. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 23:49, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Congrats, Wikipedia has (had for some time) more articles than the population of the [[Birmingham, Alabama]] metro area! See [[List of United States metropolitan statistical areas by population]]). {{User:Dralwik/Signature}}
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| − | :Apparently, there are only 47 US metropolitan areas that have a higher population than the number of Wikipedia articles! [[User:70.128.104.145|70.128.104.145]] 21:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Reinserting a break==
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| − | About a month ago, and now again, I saw near the top a pair of lines with this code:
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| − | (As it's in a cell it breaks somewhere; possibly not at the same place for every viewer. For me, it breaks after "anyone", which is ugly.)
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| − | I changed it to:
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| − | So the top line is shorter than it was (but still longer than the bottom line) and does not contain part of a link. Who has a problem with that? [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 01:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Great idea. Before it was ugly. I do not have a problem with that I just thought I should give you positive feedback. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 01:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I saw it as a single line of text, and your change makes the header look horrible for me. What browser and what resolution are you using? I am using Firefox, with 1024 x 768 resolution. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::It did not break for me (Firefox Linux 1024x786) no matter how I resized my browser and now it looks worse.--[[User:Clawed|Clawed]] 01:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :(edit conflict) The previous version fit all on one line, even if I shrink the window as small as it will go. It's not supposed to be a two-line message. Oh and I've tried it on 4 different Windows browsers and it's 1-line in all of them. –[[User:Tifego|<small>Tifego</small>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Tifego|(t)]]</sup><sub> 01:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)</sub>
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| − | Screenshots of how I am seeing it [[:Image:Mainpagebefore.JPG|before]] and [[:Image:Mainpageafter.JPG|after]] your change. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :It looks really horrible for me now. I use a 1280x1024 resolution, and now most of the top of the page just looks like white space now that the bar is so wide! I'll have screenshots in a moment. —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 02:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Here we go (with a table border so the height is clear): Before:
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| − | <table border=2><tr><td>[[Image:Mainpagebefore.PNG|before]]</table>
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| − | and after:<table border=2><tr><td>[[Image:Mainpageafter.PNG|after]]</table> —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 02:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Here's an idea that should make everyone happy: Change
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| − | That way it doesn't split in the middle of the link on browsers that incorrectly split it into 2 lines, and it still looks the same as before (displays as 1 line) for everyone else. –[[User:Tifego|<small>Tifego</small>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Tifego|(t)]]</sup><sub> 03:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)</sub>
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| − | ::I made the change to use nbsp.-[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]] 05:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Looks great now! —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 22:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==On This Day: 3 May==
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| − | Is there an admin awake yet? It's 100% wrong to say that the [[Polish Constitution of May 3, 1791]] was "the first codified national constitution in Europe". Here's an older one: [[Instrument of Government]]. And to say that it's "the second oldest constitution in the world" is just asking for trouble: have a look at [[Constitution#History_and_development]].
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| − | I suggest that the entry be changed to "[[1791]] - The [[Polish Constitution of May 3, 1791]], [[Europe]]'s first modern [[codified]] national [[constitution]], was adopted." [[User:StockholmSyndrome|StockholmSyndrome]] 06:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == [[WP:DYK]] ==
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| − | This section is a backlog. Please update as soon as possible. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 07:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Why is [[Main Page]] in the main namespace? It should be at [[Wikipedia:Main Page]]. If there is ever a famous book/band/movie called "Main Page" how will the redirect work? I wanted to make a redirect for [[Home page]]. [[User:Joestynes|jnestorius]]<sup>([[User talk:Joestynes|talk]])</sup> 13:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : See [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 67#Namespace]]. --[[User:64.229.225.56|64.229.225.56]] 14:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==tongan earthquake==
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| − | we need to mention it in the top news, no?
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| − | :Someone put it in the news but there is one on [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/7.8_magnitude_earthquake_occurs_near_Tonga WikiNews]. WikiNews articles can't be on Wikipedia. Please see the mention here [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]]. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 20:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Wikipedian Governor==
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| − | I think that we should elect a governor of Wikipedia to settle all disputes. [[User:1028|1028]] 23:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :[[User:Jimbo Wales]]. But there are far too many disputes for one person to handle, that's why [[WP:ARBCOM|ArbCom]] exists. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 23:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :But then we just have disputes about the appropriateness of Jimbo's remedies! :)
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| − | ::The idea of ArbCom is that it is a last resort since any decision they might make is final and binding. So therefore there wouldn't be disputes about their remedies since all other possible steps should have been tried before resorting to ArbCom. --[[User:Happynoodleboy|Happynoodleboy]] 09:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :More helpfully (perhaps), see [[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]] for the dispute resolution mechanisms. Ideally, the Arbcom would have nothing to do because everything would have been settled before it reached their level. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 01:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Typo==
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| − | In On This Day, "1855 - William Walker and group of mercenaries" should really be "1855 - William Walker and '''a''' group of mercenaries". [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] 02:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Fixed. Thanks. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 02:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Proposed change to the top of the page subject list ("Culture" to replace "Arts")==
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| − | I suggest that "Culture" should replace "Arts" in the subject list on the top of the main page. "Arts" is a subdivision of culture and is not a fundamental top level category like the other seven subjects shown. Including it in the list means that the list does not cover the full range of knowledge, or the full content of Wikipedia. Adding "Culture" to the list in its place will solve these problems. [[User:CalJW|CalJW]] 02:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Overlap with 'Society' ? -- [[User:65.95.106.174|65.95.106.174]] 15:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Some might suggest another solution might be to make arts a top level category. As suggested above, society overlaps with culture, which is where perhaps it should be categorised, and I'd also add that guidelines tell us ''categories do not form a strict hierarchy''. Therefore I'd suggest you're arguing froma flawed premise, and also note we should be presenting information for our reader's considerations, not our own. I'm also confused as to why Technology is a top level category and not a sub-category of Science, and the same could be argued for Maths. History could be placed in Culture, and thus so could Biography, and since Culture is now in Society, before you know it we have reduced the links to one, [[:Category:Categories]]. [[User:Steve block|Steve block]] <small>[[User talk:Steve block|Talk]]</small> 23:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::I oppose Culture replacing Arts. It's possible to say that Arts as a sub-category of Culture, but if the latter is defined so widely that everything else fits within it, it defeats the purpose of having separate categories IMO. - [[User:Kleinzach|Kleinzach]] 10:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I stand with Steve block and Kleinzach in opposing. [[User:Ganymead|''*Exeunt*'' Ganymead]] | [[User talk:Ganymead|Dialogue?]] 14:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I, as well, agree with Steve block and Kleinzach. -- <font style="color: red">[[User:Rainmonger|T]]</font>.<font style="color: blue">[[User talk:Rainmonger|o]]</font>.<font style="color: gray">[[Special:Contributions/Rainmonger|n]]</font>.<font style="color: green">[[WP:ESP|y]]</font> 17:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :'''Oppose''' - more category silliness - it is just as easy to make a case for all knowledge being one and any division being artificial. So all categorization is incomplete an unable to express the full subtlety for human enquiry. Leave as it. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|<span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span>]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|<span style="color:#CC9900"><sup>(Talk Page)</sup></span>]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|<span style="color:#CC9900"><sub>(Desk)</sub></span>]] 16:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == ITN Technicality ==
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| − | Technically, [[Zacarias Moussaoui]] has not been sentenced to life in prison without parole yet. Juries cannot hand down sentences. Instead, the news item should read something like:
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| − | : ''A jury in the case of '''[[Zacarias Moussaoui]]''' (pictured) determines he should serve [[life imprisonment|life in prison]] without the possibility of [[parole]] for involvement in the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]].''
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| − | On [[May 4]], at 10:00am [[Alexandria, Virginia]] time (1400 UTC), the sentence (which will most likely be life in prison w/o parole) should be official. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 02:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Try [[Talk:Main Page/errors]]. --[[User:65.95.106.174|65.95.106.174]] 15:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :: Ah, I didn't see that. That's new. I suppose it was necessary (and a good idea). [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 22:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Freedom Tower link==
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| − | Does anyone else get a screwy link to Freedom Tower? In Firefox this link shows up red and takes me to the editing page for the article. However, it only does this when I'm logged in. Does this have something to do with it being protected? [[User:Imaginaryoctopus|Imaginaryoctopus]]<sup>[[User talk:Imaginaryoctopus|(talk)]]</sup> 03:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : I'm using Firefox (and I'm logged in) and I'm not having that problem. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 03:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Yeah, me neither now. I've been refreshing the page for the past few minutes and it suddenly stopped being redlinked. Strange...oh well, nevermind. [[User:Imaginaryoctopus|Imaginaryoctopus]]<sup>[[User talk:Imaginaryoctopus|(talk)]]</sup> 03:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::: It was deleted to clean up a vandal attack. It should be ok now. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])</sup> 03:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :That's so weird. Exactly the same thing happened to me, but with the link to the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] article. The problem went away when I refreshed the page after a couple of minutes. [[User:Arvindn|Arvindn]] 04:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Same thing there. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])</sup> 05:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Two [[Edward S. Curtis]] FPs in a row?==
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| − | Shouldn't we go for a bit more variety with the FPs? Or are we running out again? 03:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Ask at [[Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day]]. --[[User:65.95.106.174|65.95.106.174]] 15:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Minor edit needed to correct a current Did You Know==
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| − | In the current did you know: "That Nerima Daikon Brothers is a rare musical comedy format anime series that pokes fun of Junichiro Koizumi, Michael Jackson, Bae Yong-Joon..." '''of''' should be '''at'''.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] 03:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Even smaller edit: the entry on [[Anders Uppström]] should start with three dots instead of two. --<font color="FC4339">[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]]</font> <sup><font color="C98726">[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</font></sup> 13:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Try [[Talk:Main Page/errors]]. --[[User:65.95.106.174|65.95.106.174]] 15:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == Josip Broz - Tito died on May 4th ==
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| − | As a great political leader and founder of the Non-Aligned_Movement, he more then deserves being mentioned on the main page.
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| − | :Deaths are not usually put onto selected anniverseries unless the person is ''tremendously'' historically significant, and even then only on the 50th, 100th etc. anniversaries. He might have had a chance last year, on the 25th anniversary of his death, but probably not again until the 50th in 2030. [[User:GeeJo|<font style="padding : 0px 1px 1px 1px; border : 1px solid #809EF5; background: #FFFFFF ; color: #99B3FF">GeeJo</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:GeeJo|(t)]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/GeeJo|(c)]]</sub> <small>• 11:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)</small>
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| − | == hey everyone ==
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| − | why did sacaria musowi not get the death penalty?
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| − | :I dunno, Internet? [[User_talk:Ziggur|Ziggur]] 18:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Seriously, no [[Kent State shootings]]?--[[User:YoungFreud|YoungFreud]] 15:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Generally speaking, more than two items on one country in Selected anniversaries is considered bad form. There are (arguably) already three items that are US-related and adding another would be bad form. [[May 4]] does list the shootings. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 19:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == Can you see the [[Albatross]]? ==
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| − | I can't see this featured article....
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| − | Ithink it has been vandalized --[[User:Melaen|Melaen]] 22:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :No, something happened, it takes me to the edit page of [[Albatross]]. Up until 30 seconds ago it brought me to a picture of a movie. —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 22:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Working now. —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 22:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Redlink on main page now.[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 22:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Fixed now. It was necessary to remove personal information from the edit history of the page. Unfortunately [[Albatross]] has had to be semiprotected, but that is necessary also. --[[Darth]] [[User:Deskana|Deskana]] <small>[[User_Talk:Deskana|(talk page)]]</small> 22:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I like the [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptseite new main page at de]. It's slim and professional. Shouldn't it be used at en, too?
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| − | :You like that one better? I like ours. It lookies "happier." —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 22:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | *I like the German one. The talk page looks realy good. How do you like the [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principale Italian Wikipedia]. Not that we should change the en Wikipedia to this one. But this looks nice also. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 22:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Now that's a nice one. Playful and fun looking, but everything is there. I also like their rounded tabs at the top of each page instead of our square ones. —[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 22:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Eh, I'm not too big on the huge section portal. I personally never use it, and it would definitely bother me having to scroll past it each time. -[[User:Elmer Clark|Elmer Clark]] 23:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Background-color on the Italian Wikipedia talk page looks realy good.[[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 02:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::If anyone's interested, there are long discussions about the various merits and demerits of various layouts in the archives of [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability/Main Page]], which led us to the page we have. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 14:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Just a suggestion, maybe all future error report threads that show up here should be moved over to the [[/errors|error report subpage]] which some admins watch independent of this page (since this page often fills up with irrelevant threats) and therefore would more quickly be able to fix any problems that are reported. If there's no objections to this I'd suggest amending something to the error page notice at the top of this page to state that any error reports posted here will be moved to the subpage. <small>[[User:Pegasus1138|Pegasus1138]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Pegasus1138|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Pegasus1138|Contribs]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Pegasus1138|Email]]</sup> ---- 00:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :This sounds like a good idea. The banner that is on the [[/errors|error report subpage]] should moved to the talk page. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 14:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::What do you mean? [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 16:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == same image forever ==
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| − | ok, do we have to look at that zak guy's face forever? {{unsigned|161.76.99.106}}
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| − | : If and when another world event occurs, the image, and the top news item, will be replaced. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 02:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :LOL. Yeah, it would be nice if WP:ITN had more diversity than the MSM. But hey, anyone can edit and all that. [[User:Arvindn|Arvindn]] 17:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I don't know why today, but it clicked on me too. Don't you think someone should update the news? --[[User:Alexignatiou|Alexignatiou]] 15:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : I think the admins are too busy fighting vandals at the Featured Article to worry about updating ITN .... -- [[User:65.95.105.129|65.95.105.129]] 17:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Shouldn't Cinco De Mayo be put as a holiday?--[[User:68.198.111.189|68.198.111.189]] 10:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Also, Cinco de Mayo points to [[Cinco de mayo]] which is a redirect to [[Cinco de Mayo]]. [[User:Pietdesomere|Piet]] 15:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :The link has been corrected. As for not being listed under holidays, [[Cinco de Mayo]] is not a legal/formal holiday in any of the locations it is celebrated. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 15:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Wait, Anheuser-Busch isn't a location? --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 00:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | What's going on with the featured article page? If someone could restore... [[User:Superdosh|Superdosh]] 17:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :what seems to be the problem?--[[User:Alhutch|Alhutch]] 17:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :: Well, looks like its been resolved (thanks). The problem was that the page was wiped and replaced with a picture (first of the movie Dick, and later of a character from Spongebob), and there wasn't any history that I could use to restore. [[User:Superdosh|Superdosh]] 17:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::yeah, vandalism. i put it on my watchlist, so we'll do our best to keep it clean.--[[User:Alhutch|Alhutch]] 17:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Er...why does the featured article have a red link? [[User:Agent Koopa|Agent_Koopa]] 17:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Mysterious. Seems to happen to some people randomly. Ninjas are probably to blame. See the section on the Freedom Tower link above. [[User:Arvindn|Arvindn]] 17:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | It's linked to the edit page. That's why it's red. Somebody fix please. --[[User:65.25.217.79|65.25.217.79]] 17:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : It's called a "vandal eclipse of the FA". It often happens when admins deal with FA vandalism. Some vandal is (hopefully) bleeding profusely, making the link red.... It will be blue or purple again soon, reflecting the color of the face of the beaten vandals. -- [[User:65.95.105.129|65.95.105.129]] 17:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :: Hahaha... that's funny. Kill the vandals ! Anyway, [[Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors#Red-Linked FA]] explains what happened. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 21:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == WHAT?! UNDERLINE ==
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| − | Oh, please, admins, NO! JUST DON'T PUT ON THE LINK UNDERLINES! PLEASE! HOW CAN I REMOVE THOSE UGLY UNDERLINES?!?!?!?!? GOD DARN IT HAPPENED SO FAST!
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| − | EDIT: Ignore, it seems to be set back. What was it, anyways? --<b><font color="#FF4F00">[[User:Nlitement|nlitement]]</font> <sup><font color="#000000">[[User_talk:Nlitement|[talk]]]</font></sup></b> 18:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :This has been discussed at the Village Pump, on IRC, and at [[User talk:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo's talk page]] (see, especially, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_7#Recurring error in Wikipedia? here], inter al.; the conclusion generally reached is that, even as there are sundry causes of which one might think, none seems properly to explain the random occurrences. At the very least, you should be comforted to know that others have experienced the same problem, not only because one imagines that a solution will eventually be divined, but also because you needn't to think yourself to be crazy. I was altogether afraid ever to say anything about the problem, thinking that I must have done something to cause it or that, in any case, it wasn't a problem with which others would identify... [[User:Jahiegel|Joe]] 18:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :If you have an account there's an easy fix using your monobook.css file, just go to [[User:USERNAME/monobook.js]] (assuming your using the monobook skin, if not replace monobook with name of skin) and put in <code>a ( font-decoration: none; )</code> which will effectively get rid of the underlines under all the links. <small>[[User:Pegasus1138|Pegasus1138]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Pegasus1138|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Pegasus1138|Contribs]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Pegasus1138|Email]]</sup> ---- 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I think you mean [[User:USERNAME/monobook.css]]. :-) --[[User:PS2pcGAMER|PS2pcGAMER]] ([[User talk:PS2pcGAMER|talk]]) 23:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | How did Karl Marx not make it in the birthday list?!?!? May 5th, 1818. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:64.107.192.24|64.107.192.24]] ([[User talk:64.107.192.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.107.192.24|contribs]]) 22:08, 2006 May 5 (UTC).</small><!-- [Template:Unsigned] -->
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| − | : Yes, he did. See [[May 5#Births]]. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 10:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == The picking process for the featured article on main page ("Raul654") ==
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| − | [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article#Guidelines]]
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| − | Why is it that only this single person gets to pick the article for the main page of the whole of the wiki, who gave him this authority? I cannot find any vote by the community akin to [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship]] or [[Wikipedia:Elections]], can someone please point me towards any relevant information? Thanks --[[User:Col. Hauler|Col. Hauler]] 22:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Col Hauler - while I do choose the featured articles, lately most of the ones I have been choosing are there because someone requested them (from the pool of [[wikipedia:featured articles|featured articles]]). You can see pending requests on [[Wikipedia talk:Tomorrow's featured article]] [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 15:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | *[[Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_featured_article/archive_2#Ratification_of_User:Raul654_as_Featured_Articles_Director|Ratification]] here. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])</sup> 22:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : BTW, Raul654 doesn't decide which wikipage becomes a featured article. He is only the scheduler. And he has been doing a good job. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 01:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::second that he does very nice work--[[User:Alhutch|Alhutch]] 02:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Another vote of confidence here. Col. Hauler, you do know that the Featured Articles are voted on by the community, so Raul654 is only choosing from a short list of articles widely considered "fantastic". --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 00:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Well, I for one think it's just TOO MUCH POWER for just ONE MAN to handle. Even for a beefcake [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Raul654.jpg] like Mark. He he. --[[User:JohnOw|<font color="red">J</font>]][[User:JohnOw|<font color="orange">o</font>]][[User:JohnOw|<font color="darkyellow">h</font>]][[User:JohnOw|<font color="green">n</font>]][[William Blake|<font color="cyan">O</font>]] 06:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Well, we for one disagree. If Raul ever screws up, we'll be on his ass in a moment. It's like the best of both worlds, IMO; we give one man full power, but he is totally accountable for his actions. (Kind of like the early concept of Roman dictators.) This way he has the authority to do what is necessary, but remains responsible for what he does. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 06:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Suspiciously similar to [[Utopia_limited|Utopia]] by [[Gilbert and Sullivan]]. An absolute tyrant who is totally accountable for his actions with death. [[User:88.144.79.120|88.144.79.120]] 15:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::...thanks for the vote of confidence.... [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 15:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Am I the only one who thinks that the CIA seal being pictured over the man himself is stupid? I mean we have his picture, there is not need to have the CIA seal instead. [[User:Zzz345zzz|Zzz345zzz]] 03:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Wikipedia has a strict policy of allowing only free images on the Main Page. The portrait of [[Porter J. Goss]] has an obsolete "public domain" tag on it, so it isn't obvious whether it is truly free or not. (The photo we have appears to be larger than but otherwise identical to the one at [http://stockholm.usembassy.gov/cabbio/images/goss.jpg], so it's probably an official portrait). I suspect that whoever updated the main page decided to play it safe.-[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]] 04:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :: But [[:Image:Porter goss.jpg|this one]]'s public domain ({{tl|PD-USGov-Congress}})... what's so bad with it? [[Image:Flag of Bulgaria.svg|20px]] [[User:TodorBozhinov|→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov]] [[User_talk:TodorBozhinov|→]] 16:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Look how much the main page has grown from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=next&oldid=139905]. --<i><b><font color="#5ADD22"><font size="1">[[User:GeorgeMoney|George]]</font></font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|Mon]]</font><font size="1" color=green>[[User:GeorgeMoney/Esperanza|e]]</font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|y]]</font></b></i><sup><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt">[[User_talk:GeorgeMoney|Talk]]</span></font><span style="font-size: 3pt"></span><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt"> [[Special:Contributions/GeorgeMoney|Contribs]]</span></font></sup> 04:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :I see your 2 and raise you a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=prev&oldid=139890]. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 04:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Strangely, this version does not appear in the page's history, and prior to the 5th of August there is absolutely no revision history. Strange. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 04:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::I know. I had to press "older version" link about one hundred times. --<i><b><font color="#5ADD22"><font size="1">[[User:GeorgeMoney|George]]</font></font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|Mon]]</font><font size="1" color=green>[[User:GeorgeMoney/Esperanza|e]]</font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|y]]</font></b></i><sup><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt">[[User_talk:GeorgeMoney|Talk]]</span></font><span style="font-size: 3pt"></span><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt"> [[Special:Contributions/GeorgeMoney|Contribs]]</span></font></sup> 04:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::There must have been some kind of page transition at that point. [http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePage Here] is the site frozen as of [[20 December]] [[2001]]. I notice that the histories of the articles on Nostalgia Wikipedia actually go back a couple months further. ([http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=history Wikipedia] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=history&limit=50&offset=20020821080640 Wikipedia]) - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 16:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Gorgeous picture of the cows, but technically the bolded word should be '''[[Cattle]]''' not [[Hereford]], as that's where the picture is actually used. [[User Talk:Stevage|Stevage]] 08:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : Click on the bolded link there, and you'll get [[Hereford (cattle)]], better than [[Cattle]] or [[Hereford]]. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 10:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Any specific reason why [[Sigmund Freud]] did not make it into today's selection? It is his 150th birthday. -- [[User:141.40.169.148|141.40.169.148]] 21:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :*sigh* The people who select the items do so from the [[May 6|article for the day]] which usually has hundreds of things to choose from, but only about half-a-dozen can fit on the page. Birthdays sometimes make it on there, especially on big anniversaries, but it's not guaranteed and there's no need to look for a "reason". --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 00:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | [[Beaconsfield mine collapse]] I believe that this deserves an ongoing place in the "in the news" section. I feel it is far more important than the centence of a terrorist or a cabinet shuffle in Brittain. There are places and people in the world other than in America and Europe. Get your acts togeather.{{unsigned|144.132.21.233}}
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| − | :I posted this on [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]]. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 3:07 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::And Sudan. There are also places besides Sudan. And also Armenia. And let's not forget Nepal. Clearly we need to get our acts togeather and stop our blatant America-Europe-Asia-Africa bias on ITN. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 03:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::I agree with the last post. There are places becides Sudan and America etc. We need to get our acts togeather and think about other places in the world. [[User:FellowWikipedian|Fellow]][[User talk:FellowWikipedian|Wikipedian]] 15:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :ITN items generally affect large numbers of people or have long-lasting effects -- wars, elections, and so forth. This involves two people who are in some danger but who should be rescued soon -- basically a human-interest story perfect for cable news, but not very encyclopedic. That said, the article is very well done, but I still don't think it makes the cut for the front page. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I've made a new design, though regular editors won't see any differences. My design uses div tags and style attributes, and does away with the table tags.
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| − | See [[User:Ta bu shi da yu/MainPage2]]. The only think I can't work out is how to make the two column sizes the same. If anyone has any ideas, please feel free to go ahead and fix this! - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 05:58, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :How did it break the main page? - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 06:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::On the machine I am using at the moment (640x480 resolution), the 4 panes form a single column rather than the 2x2 layout they are supposed to. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 06:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::I'm on <del>1024x768</del> <ins>1280x1024</ins> and it looks horrible to me too ... everything at the top got shoved over to the right, and everything's off a bit. I prefer the previous version. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 06:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I don't know how it looks on your end, but it's seriously messed up on mine. I was about to type out a list of flaws when you went ahead and made the change. Then Mark reverted a few seconds before I was able to, and you ignored his concerns by reverting to your version! I'll post the aforementioned list of flaws as soon as I finish typing it. '''Please''' don't revert again in the interim. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 06:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::And I was about to rollback my change, and you got to it before me. It would have been nice if Mark would have noted what the break was, but I do recognise that this was my fault. Sorry. Can I get some help in fixing these issues? - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 06:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I'm confused. What occurred during the minute after you reverted to your code that caused you to change your mind? Why didn't you ask Mark what the problem was before reverting? (Was he supposed to type a detailed explanation instead of fixing the main page as quickly as possible?) And finally, why did you rework the main page without thoroughly testing the new code or even providing a reasonable opportunity for others to comment? Don't you realize that what looks good to you might not look good for others (using different browsers, resolutions, skins and settings)? Please see my list of issues below. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 07:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::What happened was that I realised I made a mistake. All I wanted was an explanation of what went wrong, when I checked the talk page I couldn't see anything. - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 08:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::I'm running Firefox on Windows XP at 1400x1050. I use the MonoBook skin. Here's what I see:
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| − | :::* The "articlecount" id has been omitted, thereby preventing the suppression of the article count.
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| − | :::* "Overview · Searching · Editing · Questions · Help" and "Categories · Featured content · A–Z index" are too close to the header box.
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| − | :::* The featured content boxes are pushed to the left, with empty space on the right side of the page (to which the other elements extend).
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| − | :::* The columns are substantially unequal in height, with a large amount of whitespace below the right-hand column (with the present content).
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| − | :::* The text and images are not properly aligned with the headings; there's empty space on the left and right.
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| − | :::* When I reduce the window to a smaller size, I experience the problem that Mark described; the five featured elements are stacked in one column. Also, some of the portal links overlap and protrude from the header box. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 07:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I think most of the issues have now been addressed on the copy in Ta bu shi da yu's userspace, except for the height of the second column, which I can't seem to figure out. Also the overview, etc., and the Categories, featured content, etc., links are too tight in between the header and what comes below it. Take a look at it, and see if you're still experiencing the same problems. (I hope you don't mind that I took it upon myself to do some adjusting in your userspace, Ta bu shi da yu). [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 07:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Or maybe look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ta_bu_shi_da_yu/MainPage2&oldid=51950306 this earlier version] so you don't get confused by the section edits and changes being done since then. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 07:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::'''None''' of the issues that I cited have been eliminated. Now ''everything'' is pushed to the left, and the header links are too close to both the header box ''and'' the featured content columns. All of the other problems remain unchanged. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 07:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::Yeah, I think this is a screen resolution problem that will never be solved. It now looks ''almost'' correct on my resolution, but when I resize the window the columns get even more distorted in width, height, and order. The problem with the div approach is that it's nearly impossible to order the items consistently, whereas with tables it's rather simple to arrange the items to look right on every resolution (and I personally find the divs ten times more confusing to edit than the table approach). Frankly, I think I'm going to return to my original statement that the current format of the main page seems to work just fine, and as the changes being implemented have the goal of identically emulating the current look of the main page, I guess I just don't see the point. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 08:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Just wondering, what exactly was the incentive for using divs and styles instead of tables? If it ain't broke, don't fix it (IMO, at least). [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|Talk]]) 06:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Nice to be able to skin it better. For instance, I want to change the line-spacing for main articles to be line and a half spacing to stop <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags from messing up (they squish). Tables are ugly. - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 06:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Tables have been depreciated for layout according to the W3C. They shouldn't be used for anything but presenting tables of information. I've noticed that some newer browsers are already breaking table layout websites. So it will need to be done eventually. Also as mentioned above, using divs allows greater flexibility in styles. --[[User:Monotonehell|Monotonehell]] 08:06, 7 May 2006 (U[[User:Pegasus1138|Pegasus1138]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Pegasus1138|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Pegasus1138|Contribs]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Pegasus1138|Email]]</sup> ---- 08:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::I agree with Pegasus1138 -- CSS is "web standard" design. There may be difficulties ''implementing'' the standard, however, especially if the MediaWiki software requires modifications to do so. You should go back and look at the process that we ''just'' went through to redesign the front page at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Usability/Main_Page]] and bring up your ideas with the folks there, who are intimately familiar with some of the technical (and political!) limitations of such a change. Talk:Main Page is not really the place to lobby for a redesign. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | As far as I can see the SLA merged into the [[Alliance of Revolutionary Forces of West Sudan]] in January so why are they still listed here as a seperate group? --[[User:Horses In The Sky|Horses In The Sky]] 10:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :There aren't a lot of editors updating these sorts of topics on Wikipedia. The merge with the JEM didn't really take, so the SLA is still separate. Only the larger faction within the SLA signed the deal, but the ITN blurb is still correct, even if by omission. Here's [http://irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=53173 a link] with the relevant background. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 15:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :If your question is whether the article should be deleted since the groups have merged, the answer is no, because an encyclopedia contains historical information as well as current. If information in the article needs to be updated, you could bring it up on the article's Talk page, or find an appropriate regional Wikiproject, or put an "update" [[WP:TM|template tag]] in the article, or update the information yourself.--[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Vandalizm==
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| − | I think that the featured article has been vandalized. I tried to fix it and partially succeeded but now only the source is being displayed.[[User:Vcelloho|Vcelloho]] 20:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | : The featured article is a red link to me! Don't know what's wrong. [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] <sup>[[User_talk:Valentinian|(talk)]]</sup> 20:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Gee. Don't know what on earth happend, but it appears to work now. ???? [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] <sup>[[User_talk:Valentinian|(talk)]]</sup> 20:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::This has happened often enough that I've added a blurb to the [[Wikipedia:Main Page FAQ#Why is an article that is prominently linked from the Main Page missing?|FAQ]], while hopefully being vague enough to avoid [[WP:BEANS]]. - [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 20:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == CRISIS! ==
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| − | The main page feature article is a red link--the article is deleted. An admin is needed. [[User:Theonlyedge|Theonlyedge]] 22:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | The article is not deleted: see [[Rabindranath Tagore]]. Someone has vandalized the redirect. [[User:Ratzd'mishukribo|Ratzd'mishukribo]] 22:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | Cam someody please unprotect the page?[[User:138.237.240.232|138.237.240.232]] 00:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == Better image for HTTP cookie ==
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| − | I'd like to replace today's FA thumbnail from [[:Image:HTTPCookie.png|this]] to [http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/kidszone/images/internetcookie.jpg this]. Please comment at [[Talk:HTTP cookie]]. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 00:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | [[Image:HTTPCookie.png|right|100px]]
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| − | [[Image:HTTP-gingerbreadcookie.jpg|right|100px]]
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| − | See the images at right: [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 00:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | I liked your idea so much I've actually already put it in the article. Whether is goes on the mainpage is another matter though; anyone else care to comment?--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 01:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Oh, whoops, sorry, it looks like we both uploaded it. Could you, or someone, work some admin magic and merge/redirect/delete/whatever [[:Image:Internetcookie.jpg]] to [[:Image:HTTP-gingerbreadcookie.jpg]]? [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 01:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::OK, we've had three supports and no opposes after a while so I've changed it.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 01:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::Woohoo! Thanks. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 01:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | [[Image:Choco_chip_cookie.jpg|right|100px]]
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| − | [[Image:Fortune_cookie_broken_20040628_223252_1.jpg|right|100px]]
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| − | There's some more discussion now, including the two images at right. Me, I like the [[:Image:Fortune cookie broken 20040628 223252 1.jpg|fortune cookie]]. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 06:06, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Though I admit it's clever, just a picture of a fortune cookie is not really relevant to the topic. I think your discovery of a real-life public information cartoon is rather more appropriate.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 06:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::More appropriate, absolutely. I just worry that it's also more confusing and distracting. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 06:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ===Copyright status of this image===
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| − | At [[Image talk:Internetcookie.png]], two separate users have brought up the possible copyvio status of this image. Apparently, the left side of the image is Microsoft clipart, which is not allowed to be redistributed in this manner. Just thought I should bring the discussion to the Main Page, where it might be more noticed. — [[User:Scm83x|Scm83x]] <sup>[[User talk:Scm83x|hook 'em]]</sup> 09:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :In that case, we should change the image ASAP, being on the front page and all. I'm for the choco-chip image, as it is clearly a cookie, and the article explains the details. In the article itself, some sort of clever image like the one shown (but free of copyvio concerns) seems fine, but when viewed on the front page as a thumbnail, it's almost impossible to make out what's going on. -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 14:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I've already replaced the Microsoft clipart with a PD image from the Commons. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 14:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | [[Image:HTTP-Cookie-Google.png|thumb|200px|right|An HTTP cookie]]
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| − | Ok, if we want the visual pun, that's cool, I support either of the actual cookie images. But if we don't want the visual pun, I suggest the image to the right as a simple and yet accurate representation of a real cookie, gathered by [[telnet]]ting to port 80 on google.com and issuing:
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| − | Host: www.google.com
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| − | The screenshot was of a [[GNOME|gnome-terminal]] and was done in the [[GIMP|Gimp]]. -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 15:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :That's probably a good addition to the article, but not visually interesting or explanatory enough for the front page, IMO. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::Well, keep in mind, right now we have a goggle-wearing gingerbread man. You can only go up in terms of explanatory value <code>;-)</code> -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 16:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :Can this image legally be licensed under a CC licence? GNOME would have to be licensed with the same licence. Should the correct licence not be the [[GPL]]? [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 17:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ==Flag of Singapore==
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| − | It ought to have a border--it's hard to see looking down at an LCD. Right now it looks like a band of red with empty space below it. --[[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4|M1ss1ontomars2k4]] 01:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :I concur. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 01:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::You're right; at the time I put it up, somehow I couldn't get the "border" template to work with the image on the right. Any ideas?--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 01:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::If necessary, you can always make a new image with the border already on it. I'm not sure why the template wouldn't work; I thought I have seen images with borders in ITN. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Joturner|r]] 01:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Apparently the problem was that someone changed [[template:border]] to force the image to display the inline. I've stripped this out for [[template:border-notinline]], though I do wonder why the change was made in the first place...--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 02:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I can see the border inline. [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 19:43, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == the talk ==
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| − | you dont spell britain like that u spell it brittain {{unsigned|216.61.101.247}}
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| − | :Sorry, [[Britain]] has one T, but we don't know what you're on about because the word "Britain" doesn't appear on the Main Page or Talk:Main Page either. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | ::I typed in the talk and got [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Talk&redirect=no this]. Mabie this is what he is talking about? [[User:FellowWikipedian|FellowWikipedian]] 19:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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| − | == Reagan who? ==
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| − | "...was restored so successfully that Reagan presented..."
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| − | There is no previous mention of President Reagan in this blurb, so you need to spell out of whom you speak.
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| − | :Fixed. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 18:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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