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[[Chancel_Amyra]]
 
[[Chancel_Amyra]]
 
[[Chancel_Amyra:Chancel_Vulcan|Chancel_Vulcan]] - [[Chancel_Amyra:Vulcan|Imperator Vulcan]]
 
 
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk|Machinery and Data (2rd Edition)]]
 
 
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3_1|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) v1]]
 
 
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) (last)]]
 
 
===Wounds===
 
0/2 Deadly Wound
 
0/2 Serious
 
0/2 Surface
 
  
  
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! Value
 
! Value
 
! MPs
 
! MPs
! Used
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Aspect
 
| Aspect
 
| 2
 
| 2
 
| 10
 
| 10
| 0
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Domain
 
| Domain
 
| Machynery: 4<br>Data: 4
 
| Machynery: 4<br>Data: 4
 
| 10
 
| 10
| 0
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Persona
 
| Persona
 
| 4
 
| 4
 
| 10
 
| 10
| 0
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Treasure
 
| Treasure
 
| 0
 
| 0
 
| 10
 
| 10
| 0
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
  
 
===Gifts===
 
===Gifts===
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* "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP
 
* "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP
 
  
 
===Bonds & Afflictions===
 
===Bonds & Afflictions===
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* Affliction: I’m respectful toward and never do harm to my Warmains brothers: Elias and Rochefort and ??? [2]
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* Affliction: My shape changes to reflect my deeds [1]
 
* Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3]
 
* Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3]
 
* Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3]
 
* Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3]
* Bond: I love my dear Theresa as if she was his mum [2]
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* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [2]
* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [1]
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* Bond: I hate Dollphaniel [1]
* Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1]
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* Bond: I want DanteE [1]
* Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1]
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* Affliction: I'm Vassa's son, Elias, Rochefort and ??? Are my brothers [2]
 
  
 
===Skills & Passions===
 
===Skills & Passions===
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Passion Complicate others life [2]<br>
 
Passion Complicate others life [2]<br>
 
Skill Cool [5]<br>
 
Skill Cool [5]<br>
Shine [4]<br>
 
  
  
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* Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother
 
* Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother
 
Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.)
 
Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.)
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===Destiny===
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I '''must''' bed Ophaniel!  <small>(OMG I can use destiny to bed Imperatrix Ophaniel !___! )</small>
  
  
 
===About Machinery===
 
===About Machinery===
 
Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery.
 
Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery.
* A machine Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces. [2]
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* A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together. [2]
 
** 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine.
 
** 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine.
 
** A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine.
 
** A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine.
* A machine must be tangible. [1]
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* A machinery is an object. [1]
 
* Machinery can't be sentient. [2]
 
* Machinery can't be sentient. [2]
 
** A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being.
 
** A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being.
 
* Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2]
 
* Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2]
 
** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise.
 
** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise.
 
 
-- chat excerpt 2011-09-09 --<br>
 
<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Let me see.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Heh.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?<br>
 
<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?<br>
 
<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?<br>
 
<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things<br>
 
<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes<br>
 
<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?<br>
 
<Angelo> yes Verithe<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?<br>
 
<Angelo> ok I change the definition<br>
 
<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
 
<Angelo> :-)<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.<br>
 
<Angelo> Super!<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.<br>
 
<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG<br>
 
<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?<br>
 
<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?<br>
 
<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.  You might want to devote a quality to that.<br>
 
<Angelo> yes sound right<br>
 
<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-<br>
 
<Angelo> would work?<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"<br>
 
<Angelo> cool!<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.<br>
 
<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?<br>
 
<Angelo> nope :-)
 
  
 
===About Data===
 
===About Data===
 
Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain.
 
Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain.
* Data MUST be some kind of stored information. [2]
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* Data must be some kind of stored information. [3]
 
** Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data.
 
** Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data.
 
** A lost notebook, forgot by anyone  with some informations in it fall into data.
 
** A lost notebook, forgot by anyone  with some informations in it fall into data.
* Data shape being's decisions [2]
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* Data can't be live. [3]
* Data CAN'T be live. [2]
 
 
** What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data.
 
** What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data.
 
** A plant is not a data
 
** A plant is not a data
 
** A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data.
 
** A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data.
* Data TEND bring back feelings [1]
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* Data tends to persist. [1]
 
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** A tale wrote in a book is the same while years pass.
 
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** If the book is caught in fire and then rescued from is burning end. The scorched pages can contain pieces of the tale in the not-fire touched pieces...
  
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