Editing Chancel Amyra:Ftisk v3

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[[Chancel_Amyra]]

[[Chancel_Amyra:Chancel_Vulcan|Chancel_Vulcan]] - [[Chancel_Amyra:Vulcan|Imperator Vulcan]]

[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk|Machinery and Data (2rd Edition)]]

[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3_1|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) v1]]

[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) (last)]]


===Wounds===
0/2 Deadly Wound
0/2 Serious
0/2 Surface


===Attributes===
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! Attribute
! Value
! MPs
! Used
|-
| Aspect
| 2
| 10
| 0
|-
| Domain
| Machynery: 4<br>Data: 4
| 10
| 0
|-
| Persona
| 4
| 10
| 0
|-
| Treasure
| 0
| 10
| 0
|}


===Gifts===
* "Skin of the machine": Ftiskaaaahk can create a new body with the limitations that the new body must be done of some matter type and can't be more that an Asian elephant big. Total= 4CP

* "AG-Field ON!": Ftiskaaaahk use this gift to (mainly) hover in snail form and to fly when he acquire a body. Lesser creation of [antigravity device/wing/stratoreactor/something suitable to fly with the current body] used to fly. Total= 1CP

* "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP


===Bonds & Afflictions===
* Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3]
* Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3]
* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [2]
* Bond: I hate Dollphaniel [1]
* Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1]
* Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1]
* Affliction: I'm Vassa's son, Elias, Rochefort and ??? Are my brothers [2]

===Skills & Passions===
Passion Have fun [3]<br>
Passion Complicate others life [2]<br>
Skill Cool [5]<br>
Shine [4]<br>


===Keys===
Wild Oats (Key V) Key of Destiny Denied. (Heart +2 Shadow +0)<br>
Wild Rose (Key XI) Key of Something Different. (Heart +3 Shadow +5)<br>
Foundation: Just Plain Weird<br>
Your estate: Machinery is from the light side of human experience.<br>
Your estate: Machinery is something you can point to.<br>
Your estate: Data is from the beautiful side of the world.<br>
Your estate: Data is something you can describe.<br>
Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snails life.<br>
Life legacy: Completely inhuman.<br>
Contacts:
* Alien: Dollphaniel
* Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother
Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.)


===About Machinery===
Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery.
* A machine Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces. [2]
** 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine.
** A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine.
* A machine must be tangible. [1]
* Machinery can't be sentient. [2]
** A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being.
* Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2]
** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise.


-- chat excerpt --
<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?

<Random_Nerd> Let me see.

<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."

<Random_Nerd> Heh.

<Random_Nerd> Hmm.

<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?

<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?

<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one

<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?

<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition

<Random_Nerd> Okay.

<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?

<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?

<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things

<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes

<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?

<Angelo> yes Verithe

<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.

<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?

<Angelo> ok I change the definition

<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine

<Random_Nerd> Okay.

<Angelo> :-)

<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.

<Angelo> Super!

<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.

<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG

<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns

<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.

<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.

<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?

<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain

<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?

<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made

<Random_Nerd> Hmm.  You might want to devote a quality to that.

<Angelo> yes sound right

<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-

<Angelo> would work?

<Random_Nerd> Hmm.

<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"

<Angelo> cool!

<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.

<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?

<Angelo> nope :-)

===About Data===
Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain.
* Data MUST be some kind of stored information. [2]
** Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data.
** A lost notebook, forgot by anyone  with some informations in it fall into data.
* Data shape being's decisions [2]
* Data CAN'T be live. [2]
** What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data.
** A plant is not a data
** A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data.
* Data TEND bring back feelings [1]



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 * Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3]
 * Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3]
-* Bond: I love my dear Theresa as if she was his mum [2]
+* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [2]
-* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [1]
+* Bond: I hate Dollphaniel [1]
 * Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1]
 * Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1]
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--- chat excerpt 2011-09-09 --<br>
+-- chat excerpt --
-<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?<br>
+<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?
-<Random_Nerd> Let me see.<br>
-<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Let me see.
-<Random_Nerd> Heh.<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
+<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."
-<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Heh.
-<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one<br>
-<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Hmm.
-<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
+<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?
-<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?<br>
-<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?
-<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things<br>
-<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes<br>
+<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one
-<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?<br>
-<Angelo> yes Verithe<br>
+<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?
-<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.<br>
-<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?<br>
+<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition
-<Angelo> ok I change the definition<br>
-<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Okay.
-<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br>
-<Angelo> :-)<br>
+<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?
-<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.<br>
-<Angelo> Super!<br>
+<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?
-<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.<br>
-<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG<br>
+<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things
-<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.<br>
+<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes
-<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?<br>
+<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?
-<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?<br>
+<Angelo> yes Verithe
-<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Hmm.  You might want to devote a quality to that.<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.
-<Angelo> yes sound right<br>
-<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-<br>
+<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?
-<Angelo> would work?<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br>
+<Angelo> ok I change the definition
-<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"<br>
-<Angelo> cool!<br>
+<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine
-<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.<br>
-<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?<br>
+<Random_Nerd> Okay.
+<Angelo> :-)
+<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.
+<Angelo> Super!
+<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.
+<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG
+<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns
+<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.
+<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.
+<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?
+<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain
+<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?
+<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made
+<Random_Nerd> Hmm.  You might want to devote a quality to that.
+<Angelo> yes sound right
+<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-
+<Angelo> would work?
+<Random_Nerd> Hmm.
+<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"
+<Angelo> cool!
+<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.
+<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?
 <Angelo> nope :-)