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[[Chancel_Amyra:Chancel_Vulcan|Chancel_Vulcan]] - [[Chancel_Amyra:Vulcan|Imperator Vulcan]] | [[Chancel_Amyra:Chancel_Vulcan|Chancel_Vulcan]] - [[Chancel_Amyra:Vulcan|Imperator Vulcan]] | ||
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk|Machinery and Data]] [[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3|(3rd Edition)]] | [[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk|Machinery and Data (2rd Edition)]] | ||
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3_1|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) v1]] | |||
[[Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3|Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) (last)]] | |||
===Wounds=== | |||
0/2 Deadly Wound | |||
0/2 Serious | |||
0/2 Surface | |||
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! Value | ! Value | ||
! MPs | ! MPs | ||
! Used | |||
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| Aspect | | Aspect | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 0 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Domain | | Domain | ||
| Machynery: 4<br>Data: 4 | | Machynery: 4<br>Data: 4 | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 0 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Persona | | Persona | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 0 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Treasure | | Treasure | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 0 | |||
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===Gifts=== | ===Gifts=== | ||
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* "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP | * "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP | ||
===Bonds & Afflictions=== | ===Bonds & Afflictions=== | ||
* Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3] | * Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3] | ||
* Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3] | * Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3] | ||
* Bond: I love and care Gnomely [ | * Bond: I love my dear Theresa as if she was his mum [2] | ||
* Bond: | * Bond: I love and care Gnomely [1] | ||
* Bond: | * Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1] | ||
* Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1] | |||
* Affliction: I'm Vassa's son, Elias, Rochefort and ??? Are my brothers [2] | |||
===Skills & Passions=== | ===Skills & Passions=== | ||
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Skill Cool [5]<br> | Skill Cool [5]<br> | ||
Shine [4]<br> | Shine [4]<br> | ||
===Keys=== | ===Keys=== | ||
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* Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother | * Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother | ||
Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.) | Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.) | ||
===About Machinery=== | ===About Machinery=== | ||
Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery. | Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery. | ||
* A machine | * A machine Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces. [2] | ||
** 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine. | ** 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine. | ||
** A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine. | ** A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine. | ||
* A | * A machine must be tangible. [1] | ||
* Machinery can't be sentient. [2] | * Machinery can't be sentient. [2] | ||
** A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being. | ** A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being. | ||
* Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2] | * Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2] | ||
** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise. | ** A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise. | ||
-- chat excerpt 2011-09-09 --<br> | |||
<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Let me see.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Heh.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?<br> | |||
<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?<br> | |||
<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?<br> | |||
<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things<br> | |||
<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes<br> | |||
<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?<br> | |||
<Angelo> yes Verithe<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?<br> | |||
<Angelo> ok I change the definition<br> | |||
<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Okay.<br> | |||
<Angelo> :-)<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.<br> | |||
<Angelo> Super!<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.<br> | |||
<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG<br> | |||
<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?<br> | |||
<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?<br> | |||
<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Hmm. You might want to devote a quality to that.<br> | |||
<Angelo> yes sound right<br> | |||
<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-<br> | |||
<Angelo> would work?<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"<br> | |||
<Angelo> cool!<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.<br> | |||
<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?<br> | |||
<Angelo> nope :-) | |||
===About Data=== | ===About Data=== | ||
Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain. | Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain. | ||
* Data | * Data MUST be some kind of stored information. [2] | ||
** Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data. | ** Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data. | ||
** A lost notebook, forgot by anyone with some informations in it fall into data. | ** A lost notebook, forgot by anyone with some informations in it fall into data. | ||
* Data | * Data shape being's decisions [2] | ||
* Data CAN'T be live. [2] | |||
** What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data. | ** What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data. | ||
** A plant is not a data | ** A plant is not a data | ||
** A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data. | ** A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data. | ||
* Data | * Data TEND bring back feelings [1] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:13, 22 November 2013
Chancel_Vulcan - Imperator Vulcan
Machinery and Data (2rd Edition)
Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) v1
Machinery and Data (3rd Edition) (last)
Wounds[edit]
0/2 Deadly Wound 0/2 Serious 0/2 Surface
Attributes[edit]
Attribute | Value | MPs | Used |
---|---|---|---|
Aspect | 2 | 10 | 0 |
Domain | Machynery: 4 Data: 4 |
10 | 0 |
Persona | 4 | 10 | 0 |
Treasure | 0 | 10 | 0 |
Gifts[edit]
- "Skin of the machine": Ftiskaaaahk can create a new body with the limitations that the new body must be done of some matter type and can't be more that an Asian elephant big. Total= 4CP
- "AG-Field ON!": Ftiskaaaahk use this gift to (mainly) hover in snail form and to fly when he acquire a body. Lesser creation of [antigravity device/wing/stratoreactor/something suitable to fly with the current body] used to fly. Total= 1CP
- "Skin of steel" = Durant. Total 1CP
Bonds & Afflictions[edit]
- Affliction: I live forever and don’t need to eat or drink but can be killed [3]
- Bond: I’m curious! / I want to see what is after that corner again and again [3]
- Bond: I love my dear Theresa as if she was his mum [2]
- Bond: I love and care Gnomely [1]
- Bond: Sometimes Conrad take over while in creation [1]
- Bond: Ftisk try to retain control outside creation [1]
- Affliction: I'm Vassa's son, Elias, Rochefort and ??? Are my brothers [2]
Skills & Passions[edit]
Passion Have fun [3]
Passion Complicate others life [2]
Skill Cool [5]
Shine [4]
Keys[edit]
Wild Oats (Key V) Key of Destiny Denied. (Heart +2 Shadow +0)
Wild Rose (Key XI) Key of Something Different. (Heart +3 Shadow +5)
Foundation: Just Plain Weird
Your estate: Machinery is from the light side of human experience.
Your estate: Machinery is something you can point to.
Your estate: Data is from the beautiful side of the world.
Your estate: Data is something you can describe.
Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snails life.
Life legacy: Completely inhuman.
Contacts:
- Alien: Dollphaniel
- Noble Friend: Brewnyr , my Familia Celestis’s brother
Affiliation: An independent song (1. From the old comes the new. 2. Never abandon your comrades or arms. 3. Never let anything stop you from your cause.)
About Machinery[edit]
Machinery covers any and each thing that is not sentient is made by 2 or more connected parts and can do a task. Be it a car, a gun, a wooden abacus or a plow these are all under Machinery.
- A machine Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces. [2]
- 2 gears with connected cogs are a machine.
- A gear with a rope and a bucket at the rope end is a machine.
- A machine must be tangible. [1]
- Machinery can't be sentient. [2]
- A person, an AI, a wasp, a flower are not machines. The first 2 are sentient being, the flower is not sentient but is a single piece being.
- Machinery tend to enhance someone abilities or grant new ones. [2]
- A blender blend way faster that one person doing it himself manually, a car run quicker that someone on foot, a oven cook a meal that would have been cold otherwise.
-- chat excerpt 2011-09-09 --
<Angelo> RN, for Ftisk ( http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Chancel_Amyra:Ftisk_v3 ) bonds&afflictions and Data definition are good that way?
<Random_Nerd> Let me see.
<Random_Nerd> "Origins: You lived a Mechanical Snail's life."
<Random_Nerd> Heh.
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.
<Random_Nerd> On "machines can't be sentient", does Ftisk not now count as a machine?
<Random_Nerd> Or Gnomely?
<Angelo> @RN: Gnomely was created with a change made and Ftisk definitely don't count as one
<Random_Nerd> But does Gnomely count as a machine now?
<Angelo> no, he is not a machine by the definition
<Random_Nerd> Okay.
<Random_Nerd> He used to be one, but isn't one any more, then?
<Random_Nerd> And the "a machine is an object" one, what do you see that as meaning in practice?
<Angelo> that can't exist a ephemeral machine, a machine must be made of things
<Angelo> like wood or electrical pieces or drain pipes
<Verithe> A machine must be tangible, not abstract?
<Angelo> yes Verithe
<Random_Nerd> Okay, "a machine must be tangible" works better for that.
<Random_Nerd> And... hmm, okay, so a computer program wouldn't be a machine?
<Angelo> ok I change the definition
<Angelo> no I see it as Data not machine
<Random_Nerd> Okay.
<Angelo> :-)
<Random_Nerd> And Data seems fine.
<Angelo> Super!
<Random_Nerd> I see you went with the Bond version of Conrad taking over.
<Angelo> Yep, less load on the HG
<Lazarus> Computer programs always seemed to me to be less machinery and more "procedures" or somethign like that that Vulcan probably also owns
<Random_Nerd> Well, I could see a version of Machinery that included them.
<Random_Nerd> Oh, one more question about machinery.
<Random_Nerd> Can machines be naturally occuring, under this definition?
<Angelo> on Gnomely I was under the convinction that making him with Machinery with a change that put it outside of machinery leave him in the machinery domain
<Random_Nerd> Or do they have to be made by a person?
<Angelo> uhm My idea is that they are purposefull made
<Random_Nerd> Hmm. You might want to devote a quality to that.
<Angelo> yes sound right
<Angelo> or change -A machine must be done by 2 or more pieces working together- to -A machine must be done by a being with 2 or more pieces working together-
<Angelo> would work?
<Random_Nerd> Hmm.
<Random_Nerd> "Must be made by a sentient being out of two or more pieces?"
<Angelo> cool!
<Random_Nerd> Okay, let's see.
<Random_Nerd> Anything else, before we start?
<Angelo> nope :-)
About Data[edit]
Data are stored information. Any type of information from a memory inside a mind to the code inside a microchip fall under this domain.
- Data MUST be some kind of stored information. [2]
- Info stored into a book, on an hard disk, on memories are all under Data.
- A lost notebook, forgot by anyone with some informations in it fall into data.
- Data shape being's decisions [2]
- Data CAN'T be live. [2]
- What someone is seeing, a video stream are not Data.
- A plant is not a data
- A file being written on an hard disk fall not under Data. A story being written on a book too doesn't fall under data.
- Data TEND bring back feelings [1]