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| − | First a hyperlink to that SEER vision. This if for ANDREW and myself ONLY. Bill, please do not use this link. [[Midnight RPG - Chapter 19.666 | + | First a hyperlink to that SEER vision. This if for ANDREW and myself ONLY. Bill, please do not use this link. [[Midnight RPG - Chapter 19.666]] |
| + | I want to note some VERY important OUT-of-game things here. | ||
| + | * the Elf maiden that you finally found to help you do this came back to report HER perception of what Zal'Kazzir's pack looked like (ie. wrapped tightly, not throwing away anything), two things on that: | ||
| + | ** she could be misinterpretting Zal'Kazzir's "human" ways | ||
| + | ** Durgaz rolled poorly on his diplomacy to get someone to do this for him | ||
| + | * another reminder point... I feel it important to remind you all that I tend to "slant" things in the favor of 'the shadow' (ie. inciting paranoia at any turn) because that's the kind of world you live in. Remember everything I say (as GM) isn't necessarily the gospel "truth", it's just YOUR character's (or another's) perception on the world. Then again, I'm also NOT discounting what conclusion you came too... maybe Adam DID tell me that Zal would be on guard for this... I'm not saying either way, I'm leaving it to you... hehe... One thing I'd suggest as an OOG thing - to truly defeat the shadow and become heroes, if not friends, you have to trust in hope. Sometime you need to stop doubting Zal and give him benefit of doubt - the Shadow WANTS you to have infighting. This is why the Shadow minions, legates, orcs, and even the Night Kings are so political. However... AGAIN, I'm not saying that time is now - I'm just reminding you as GM about some general ideas. hehe | ||
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I can, however, think of one thing he had on him at the time that any of us should have easy access to. When Zal and Eranon went downstairs on their scouting mission, they each took one of the Invisibility to Fell charms. Zal would have had his the whole time. The question is: Who had Zal's charm during the final battle with Vrolk? I think Eranon had one of them; if we were expecting to encounter Fell, it's entirely possible that Durgaz had the other, since we had in the past been giving him one in order to benefit from the combat bonuses. But I genuinely don't remember. | I can, however, think of one thing he had on him at the time that any of us should have easy access to. When Zal and Eranon went downstairs on their scouting mission, they each took one of the Invisibility to Fell charms. Zal would have had his the whole time. The question is: Who had Zal's charm during the final battle with Vrolk? I think Eranon had one of them; if we were expecting to encounter Fell, it's entirely possible that Durgaz had the other, since we had in the past been giving him one in order to benefit from the combat bonuses. But I genuinely don't remember. | ||
The followup question is: If Durgaz didn't have it, who did? If Kyuad had it, would Kyuad give it to Durgaz if he asked? If Zal had it the whole time, would Kyuad be willing to get it from him, and then deliver it to Durgaz, if Durgaz asked? | The followup question is: If Durgaz didn't have it, who did? If Kyuad had it, would Kyuad give it to Durgaz if he asked? If Zal had it the whole time, would Kyuad be willing to get it from him, and then deliver it to Durgaz, if Durgaz asked? | ||
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| − | So, first of all, if anyone remembers the whereabouts of both the Invisibility to Fell charms _after_ Zal rejoined the group, that would help a lot. If nobody remembers anything specific, we'll assume that Zal kept it. | + | [snipped] |
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| + | So, first of all, if anyone remembers the whereabouts of both the Invisibility to Fell charms _after_ Zal rejoined the group, that would help a lot. If nobody remembers anything specific, we'll assume that Zal kept it. | ||
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| + | Good idea. | ||
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| + | I'll post on the Yahoo Group asking about this. I'll keep it on the down-low in the way I ask. Here's the [http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DnD_MIDNIGHT_Seattle/message/1329 LINK] to the Yahoo Group for this question. I'll also call and ask Adam if not answered by tonight. | ||
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| + | Once Adam replies, someone (Bill) might suggest (on the Yahoo Group out-of-character) that Zal and Kyuad give them back to Durgaz and Eranon. This way asking OOC won't TIP Adam off so much. Sorry - but we have to ask about who has them to be fair to Adam. There's no other way without cheating Adam, and I won't do that to any player without having a chance for them to say no or turn something down. The best way I tend to do this is ask it in a question that get's the answer BEFORE revealing the purpose I asked. Hence the Yahoo post. | ||
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| + | here's what I propose: Kevin could just print out whatever information Durgaz would glean from Seer Sighting the thing, and have it handy before game. Bill could ask Adam, in character, to let him see the charm. Assuming Adam gives it to him, and assuming Kyuad agreed to help Durgaz, we could then assume that Kyuad gave the charm to Durgaz, Durgaz examined it, and Kevin could surreptitiously slip me the printout. | ||
Does that seem fair? | Does that seem fair? | ||
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| + | Yes. | ||
| + | Except for the fact that I don't want to work on something that we might not potentially get/need. | ||
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| + | I threw out the question on the Yahoo group and tried to keep it cryptic. I want it determine BEFORE the game. Sorry, I have loads to do and want to get it hammered out early. This is why I like/appreciate folks doing this stuff earlier in the week prior than later. | ||
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| + | It's cool though - we'll get it straight. | ||
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| + | I hope that works for you without too much hassle. | ||
Revision as of 10:06, 21 June 2007
ANDREW
Kevin and I currently have a bluebook going in which Durgaz is attempting to use his Seer Sight to determine exactly what Zal'Kazzir was up to during the day and a half that we left him behind in the Spire. To do this, he needs something that Zal had on him at the time, and Zal has evidently taken great pains to secure all of his possessions (which, obviously, means he has something to hide.)
KEVIN
First a hyperlink to that SEER vision. This if for ANDREW and myself ONLY. Bill, please do not use this link. Midnight RPG - Chapter 19.666
I want to note some VERY important OUT-of-game things here.
- the Elf maiden that you finally found to help you do this came back to report HER perception of what Zal'Kazzir's pack looked like (ie. wrapped tightly, not throwing away anything), two things on that:
- she could be misinterpretting Zal'Kazzir's "human" ways
- Durgaz rolled poorly on his diplomacy to get someone to do this for him
- another reminder point... I feel it important to remind you all that I tend to "slant" things in the favor of 'the shadow' (ie. inciting paranoia at any turn) because that's the kind of world you live in. Remember everything I say (as GM) isn't necessarily the gospel "truth", it's just YOUR character's (or another's) perception on the world. Then again, I'm also NOT discounting what conclusion you came too... maybe Adam DID tell me that Zal would be on guard for this... I'm not saying either way, I'm leaving it to you... hehe... One thing I'd suggest as an OOG thing - to truly defeat the shadow and become heroes, if not friends, you have to trust in hope. Sometime you need to stop doubting Zal and give him benefit of doubt - the Shadow WANTS you to have infighting. This is why the Shadow minions, legates, orcs, and even the Night Kings are so political. However... AGAIN, I'm not saying that time is now - I'm just reminding you as GM about some general ideas. hehe
ANDREW
I can, however, think of one thing he had on him at the time that any of us should have easy access to. When Zal and Eranon went downstairs on their scouting mission, they each took one of the Invisibility to Fell charms. Zal would have had his the whole time. The question is: Who had Zal's charm during the final battle with Vrolk? I think Eranon had one of them; if we were expecting to encounter Fell, it's entirely possible that Durgaz had the other, since we had in the past been giving him one in order to benefit from the combat bonuses. But I genuinely don't remember.
The followup question is: If Durgaz didn't have it, who did? If Kyuad had it, would Kyuad give it to Durgaz if he asked? If Zal had it the whole time, would Kyuad be willing to get it from him, and then deliver it to Durgaz, if Durgaz asked?
[snipped]
So, first of all, if anyone remembers the whereabouts of both the Invisibility to Fell charms _after_ Zal rejoined the group, that would help a lot. If nobody remembers anything specific, we'll assume that Zal kept it.
KEVIN
Good idea.
I'll post on the Yahoo Group asking about this. I'll keep it on the down-low in the way I ask. Here's the LINK to the Yahoo Group for this question. I'll also call and ask Adam if not answered by tonight.
Once Adam replies, someone (Bill) might suggest (on the Yahoo Group out-of-character) that Zal and Kyuad give them back to Durgaz and Eranon. This way asking OOC won't TIP Adam off so much. Sorry - but we have to ask about who has them to be fair to Adam. There's no other way without cheating Adam, and I won't do that to any player without having a chance for them to say no or turn something down. The best way I tend to do this is ask it in a question that get's the answer BEFORE revealing the purpose I asked. Hence the Yahoo post.
ANDREW
here's what I propose: Kevin could just print out whatever information Durgaz would glean from Seer Sighting the thing, and have it handy before game. Bill could ask Adam, in character, to let him see the charm. Assuming Adam gives it to him, and assuming Kyuad agreed to help Durgaz, we could then assume that Kyuad gave the charm to Durgaz, Durgaz examined it, and Kevin could surreptitiously slip me the printout.
Does that seem fair?
KEVIN
Yes. Except for the fact that I don't want to work on something that we might not potentially get/need.
I threw out the question on the Yahoo group and tried to keep it cryptic. I want it determine BEFORE the game. Sorry, I have loads to do and want to get it hammered out early. This is why I like/appreciate folks doing this stuff earlier in the week prior than later.
It's cool though - we'll get it straight.
I hope that works for you without too much hassle.
